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    XOA - backups skipped to protect VDI chain

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      I'm not inside your infrastructure, but if you delete a snapshot on your side, this will need a coalesce after. So if you removed a lot of snapshot, then a large coalesce on numerous disks should be done.

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        robert wild
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        and to do a coalesce, you just rescan the SR?

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          Yep, then wait.

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            robert wild
            last edited by

            thanks Olivier 🙂

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              robert wild
              last edited by

              just another question about this

              do you think i should stop my backups on XOA, will it only interfere and make the coalesce even longer?

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                Don't do any snapshots manually. XOA should skip if the chain isn't clean.

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                  robert wild
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                  what about if i get rid of orphaned vdi disks on the SR, will this work

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    Orphaned VDIs are something else, that might indeed need to coalesce after that. But that won't change the principle: clean everything first.

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                      robert wild
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                      how do i know what vm was causing the backups from running as there all saying "Job canceled to protect the VDI chain"?

                      thanks,
                      rob

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        Because XO will backup only VM without coalesce issue. So all skipped VMs needs to coalesce first.

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                          robert wild
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                          Think I've found the solution

                          https://www.quadricsoftware.com/knowledge-base/orphaned-vdi-prevents-coalesce/

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            I'm not sure it's related to your issue. Do you have spotted the exact message in question in this page? If it's the case, you can clean everything from the UI of XO in Dashboard/health.

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                              robert wild
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                              think i have answered my own question -

                              https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX207574?_ga=2.182110311.1347118359.1579810336-430666083.1579810336

                              basically dom0 is protecting the source vdi until vbd operations complete but theres nothing to complete

                              you think this is worth a shot

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                Same answer as the other topic, as I exactly said in my previous post here: you can solve this in XO, Dashboard/health view.

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                                  pnicoll @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert Under XOA / SR / [volume] / Advanced that there are several disks with non-0 VDI to coalesce. All are '1' except for one which is '3'. The count does not seem to be decreasing after many hours. On the server 'xe task-list' shows no activity other than occasional and brief "SR scan".

                                  -> Should the "VDI to coalesce" decrease over several hours without intervention?
                                  -> Is the WebUI "Rescan all disks" different from the job that runs automatically in the background , so that running it might do some good?

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by olivierlambert

                                    1. VDI to coalesce number should decrease over time yes. If it's not, you might have a coalesce issue in your storage, check the /var/log/SMlog in the relevant host (master for shared storage, the host attached to its local storage otherwise).
                                    2. Rescan will scan for the LV/VHD files. But coalesce is automatically checked/started every 5 minutes. Coalesce can take time (depending on SR read/write and quantity to "merge"). Next releases will have a visible task for pending coalesce (next major XCP-ng release). Until then, you can do a ps axf | grep coalesce to see if there's something happening.
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