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    XOA - backups skipped to protect VDI chain

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by olivierlambert

      Click on the link "Job canceled to protect the VDI chain", this will lead you to our documentation explaining everything 🙂

      edit: in very short, you are replicated faster than your storage can keep up.

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        robert wild
        last edited by robert wild

        hi Olivier

        thats the first thing i did, so i may do my backups every other day now

        what about if i manually delete each vms snapshot

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        i rescanned the SR in question, on XOA and on xen server

        how long do you think it will take to coalesce

        if need be i will shut down each vm, copy them to the same SR but change the vms name, this works, as i have done it before but its very slow

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          Don't remove a snapshot if you don't need too. That's removing a snapshot that cause coalesce.

          You can check disks needing coalesce in Xen Orchestra (SR, Advanced tab)

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          • R Offline
            robert wild
            last edited by

            i have and theres 37 that need coalesce

            is the only option to wait or to copy the vm to a new SR or copy it to a new name so it appears to be a new vm?

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              Please wait first, until there's nothing to coalesce. Use snapshots wisely because you probably created/removed a lot in few time. And more to coalesce, longer it will be.

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                robert wild
                last edited by

                so is the reason because of that snapshot, stopping the auto backups on XOA?

                its been 3 days but now i have changed my auto backups from everyday to every other day, so lets see

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  I'm not inside your infrastructure, but if you delete a snapshot on your side, this will need a coalesce after. So if you removed a lot of snapshot, then a large coalesce on numerous disks should be done.

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                  • R Offline
                    robert wild
                    last edited by

                    and to do a coalesce, you just rescan the SR?

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      Yep, then wait.

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                      • R Offline
                        robert wild
                        last edited by

                        thanks Olivier 🙂

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                        • R Offline
                          robert wild
                          last edited by

                          just another question about this

                          do you think i should stop my backups on XOA, will it only interfere and make the coalesce even longer?

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                            last edited by

                            Don't do any snapshots manually. XOA should skip if the chain isn't clean.

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                              robert wild
                              last edited by

                              what about if i get rid of orphaned vdi disks on the SR, will this work

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                last edited by

                                Orphaned VDIs are something else, that might indeed need to coalesce after that. But that won't change the principle: clean everything first.

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                                  robert wild
                                  last edited by

                                  how do i know what vm was causing the backups from running as there all saying "Job canceled to protect the VDI chain"?

                                  thanks,
                                  rob

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by

                                    Because XO will backup only VM without coalesce issue. So all skipped VMs needs to coalesce first.

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                                    • R Offline
                                      robert wild
                                      last edited by

                                      Think I've found the solution

                                      https://www.quadricsoftware.com/knowledge-base/orphaned-vdi-prevents-coalesce/

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                        last edited by

                                        I'm not sure it's related to your issue. Do you have spotted the exact message in question in this page? If it's the case, you can clean everything from the UI of XO in Dashboard/health.

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                                        • R Offline
                                          robert wild
                                          last edited by

                                          think i have answered my own question -

                                          https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX207574?_ga=2.182110311.1347118359.1579810336-430666083.1579810336

                                          basically dom0 is protecting the source vdi until vbd operations complete but theres nothing to complete

                                          you think this is worth a shot

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                            last edited by

                                            Same answer as the other topic, as I exactly said in my previous post here: you can solve this in XO, Dashboard/health view.

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