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    • fohdeeshaF
      fohdeesha Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team 💡
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      I can start adding to this this weekend probably - would a "guide to installing pfsense" be useful? I know there's many guides out there already, but more than half of them have useless (or worse than useless) steps telling people to turn off things that don't need to be turned off

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      • olivierlambertO
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
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        Go ahead @fohdeesha 🙂

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        • Ethan6123E
          Ethan6123 @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert
          I don't want to step on any toes here. Would a guide to installing the Community Edition of Xen Orchestra be an appropriate addition to this documentation?

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          • olivierlambertO
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼 @Ethan6123
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            @Ethan6123 It's already here in the official XO doc: http://xen-orchestra.com/docs/from_the_sources.html

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            • Ethan6123E
              Ethan6123
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              I've seen that but to be completely honest it wasn't very helpful to me. I'm talking about more of a step-by-step guide for Linux novices. I would be willing to create one but I don't completely understand the relationship between the XOA team and XCP-ng. I greatly appreciate the XOA team taking this project on and don't want to overstep any bounds.

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              • borzelB
                borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️ @Ethan6123
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                @Ethan6123 https://github.com/search?q=xenorchestra&type=Repositories

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                • olivierlambertO
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼 @Ethan6123
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                  @Ethan6123 I'm not sure to really understand. The existing doc is a step by step guide. If you install it from the sources, you need a minimum knowledge, or if you don't want to, you can use XOA Free which doesn't require any knowledge and… it's free!

                  And finally, you can find on the web multiple 3rd party scripts to install it. Obviously, we cannot guarantee those will work, but if you have issues with those, you can always create issues on their repo!

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                  • Ethan6123E
                    Ethan6123 @olivierlambert
                    last edited by Ethan6123

                    @olivierlambert
                    Perhaps we are having a miscommunication. Whatever the issue it sounds like additional installation guides for Xen Orchestra Community Edition are not needed at this time.

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                    • borzelB
                      borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️ @Ethan6123
                      last edited by borzel

                      @Ethan6123 If you add one in our wiki, we will not delete it 🙂 we are too much nerds to not be happy about improving the world (and our documentation)

                      You could write (for example) an overview page that links to the various possibilities.

                      And I think @olivierlambert is a bit biased because he earns some of his money with XOA licences 💰 and that's all fine!

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                      • olivierlambertO
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
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                        Nobody earns money with XOA Free 😉 But otherwise, XOA licenses are what's paying XCP-ng dev right now, yes. Plus paid XOAs aren't meant for individuals/home labs, but for companies, and we'd like to companies get a support/turnkey solution that just work out-of-the-box 🙂

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                          Patrik48 @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert Well, maybe its a tiny bit easier to sell support if the free documentations isnt top notch 😃

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                          • olivierlambertO
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
                            last edited by olivierlambert

                            @Patrik48 it's not a goal for us to do that. You mainly sell support as in insurance: if you have an issue, you'll have access to the developers of XCP-ng to assist you with a private ticket (and with a fast response time).

                            This is something you can't have in a reasonable time when you rely only on the community.

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                              Patrik48 @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert I miss things like the manpages for the server, for the commands that is used to build up the answerfile.
                              Is there a more complete documentations provided for those going for the payed support package?

                              The OP was interested in a step by step guide, thats something that one can write after proper documentation is in place.

                              Just to be clear, Im fully understand why this isnt a job that we can ask you to do
                              for us.
                              I just hopes that someone that is able to read the code can do it, Im just a sysadmin=)

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                              • olivierlambertO
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
                                last edited by

                                1. Our wiki is open to edition for everyone
                                2. Otherwise, feel free to create a support ticket asking us to write what you need 🙂

                                The main problem is more a priority problem, and obviously, pro support tickets are priority number 1.

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                                • stormiS
                                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team 🚀 @Patrik48
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                                  @Patrik48 Just to make things clear: there is no documentation (or project of documentation) that would be restricted to those who subscribed to pro support.

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                                  • stormiS
                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team 🚀
                                    last edited by

                                    Recent changes to the documentation:

                                    • Updated https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Updates-Howto with a "Precautions" section, and a "Get information about the updates" section.
                                    • Added https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Additional-packages about additional packages installed to dom0, be it from XCP-ng repositories or from outside (CentOS, EPEL, and more).
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                                      maxcuttins @stormi
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                                      Is there out a know issue paper about XCP8?
                                      I just come back from holidays and it sound it's time to upgrade...

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                                      • olivierlambertO
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder🦸 CEO 🧑‍💼
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                                        Nothing specific except Windows XP support dropped in Xen.

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                                          maxcuttins @maxcuttins
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                                          @maxcuttins said in Great projects have great documentation. Is XCP-ng a great project?:

                                          Is there out a know issue paper about XCP8?
                                          I just come back from holidays and it sound it's time to upgrade...

                                          Windows 7 is already so old that for a minute I just get confused about it was the XP.
                                          Well not... XP is a piece of history at moment so it's ok.

                                          However I have to said that WinXP was a very good OS instead of Vista & Win8 and still it's a pity that is not supported anymore 😢
                                          At moment only Win7 can be claimed as real successor.

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                                          • borzelB
                                            borzel XCP-ng Center Team 🏚️
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                                            I just put together a Release Plan: https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/Releaseplan

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