Installing XOA on XCP-ng 8.3.0 alpha
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I just installed latest 8.3.0 alpha and it comes with XO Lite which is great but not useful for anything as of yet.
So now want to install XO but the web installer fails. Is there a special process / build of XO to install onto 8.3.0 alpha I need to follow?
Not able to find much info.
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Hi,
I'm not sure to understand, what is the failure you have? It should be deployed on 8.3. If not, you can alternatively try the deploy script.
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@olivierlambert It came back with installation failed. I am new to this platform. Let me run the web installer again. If you think it should just work on 8.3.0 may be user error... Will get back to you with outcome.
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It might be due to various reasons depending on your setup.
You can try with https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/xoa.html#alternative-install
I wonder what's going on in your case
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@olivierlambert I tried web installer again and comes back with "An error has occurred". Not sure if there is a log file I can look up to see what exactly happened?
Will try the alternative-install now
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@deztroyer oh, I can't do that. My XCP-ng box has no internet access from the host.
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That's why it doesn't work. Your browser is just telling your host to download it from the internet, therefore it's stuck until it timeout. But how do you plan to make updates on your host? Or with XOA? If you don't have internet access?
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@olivierlambert I do manual updates once a month or so. For specific reasons this lab sits in an isolated segment.
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It's not really a home lab or for purely personal use, then?
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@olivierlambert It's home lab. I have management segment which has 0 internet access. Just a security habit.
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So it's not possible to install XOA from file or from ISO?
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You can download the XVA file (check the link I posted before, there's the manual XVA deploy method). However, you'll need to enable internet access to register your XOA and update it to the last version, sicne the XVA was generated 2y ago, it's far from being up to date.
But if you can open internet in a temporary fashion, then, why not opening it just the time to deploy it in the first place?
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@olivierlambert ouch. You seem to follow the same path I struggle with UI.com where everything they make needs to be connected. I dont want internet to have any trace of any of my management devices connecting out to anything out there. This seems to work very well with pfSense for example where I blocked it from reaching out and can just update manually at my schedule. Why could not I just generate some hash out of the XO and paste to a web form to complete registration is obsoletely needed? Why the registration is needed at all? Dont take this personally - no ill intention or attitude - just asking plain technical questions.
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Well, all those questions are answered if you take time to read the doc.
XOA stands for "Xen Orchestra virtual Appliance". It is a pre configured Xen Orchestra software bundled in a Debian VM, coming in a tested environment (all libs, Node version, and so on). That's the only way we have to deliver something with pro support. There's also a web updater to keep up with our monthly QA/tested releases (you have 2 channels: stable and latest). Just click and it's up to date. There's also a support tunnel capability for remote assistance when you decide to open it. XOA is a combination of turnkeyness solution combined with tested software and support if you need it. It's meant for companies, not really individuals.
All of this is open source, so you can also decide to install and build it yourself by just following our official doc (it's not even hidden or whatnot, and it's very simple). You will have all the XO features, less the updater, QA/tests on a controlled env, or any pro support.
As you can see, you are free to make all your choice. But you need to read the documentation first, really
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@olivierlambert Oh, this makes more sense now. I somehow mixed up the appliance with the actual XO platform. Will go through the docs. Thanks!
