Netdata package is now available in XCP-ng

andrewm4894

olivierlambert yep - OpenMetrics is a big deal and totally a standard we want to handle.

https://www.netdata.cloud/blog/release-1-24/

Mainly via the Prometheus collector at the moment but iirc there is still one or two OpenMetrics types we need to do some work to cover - eg Histograms is one we working on at the moment.

olivierlambert

Nice It's not for tomorrow in XCP-ng, but knowing that it will be supported in the future for Netdata is a great news!

Thanks a lot for coming here and helping to build some bridges, I personally love Netdata (as a sysadmin, and I'm not the only one around!) and I'll be happy to get closer collaboration between our 2 projects!

andrewm4894

We are actually planning v1.35 stable release for next week so maybe, if not too much hassle (but I can imagine it's certainly non trivial, so defo is some hassle ), we could try see about updating to that on your end with understanding that's like a good base version for the ml stuff and then can leave it at that for a while maybe if ends up being not too painful on your end.

Totally up to you guys, but I can try help any way I can.

Qq, what would be the best way for me to try spin up a sort of test or dev XCP-ng env for me to try things out on? Or is there sort of hardware involved such that this might not be so easy. In my mind I'm imagining spinning up a VM lol which probably shows my level of naivety

Forza

andrewm4894 said in Netdata package is now available in XCP-ng:

Qq, what would be the best way for me to try spin up a sort of test or dev XCP-ng env for me to try things out on? Or is there sort of hardware involved such that this might not be so easy. In my mind I'm imagining spinning up a VM lol which probably shows my level of naivety

You can run XCP-ng inside a VM, as long as the hypervisor underneath exposes nested virtualisation. The actual installation of XCP-ng is very easy. Mostly click and run.

olivierlambert

Yes it's pretty simple, in a VM it's fine

https://xcp-ng.org/docs/install.html

Then, about our dev process, a recap: https://xcp-ng.org/docs/develprocess.html#development-process-tour

But stormi can guide you

andrewm4894

olivierlambert cool, going to give it a go. Do you know of any GCP or AWS based guides or material to help?

I don't actually have any physical hardware available so all the use and boot stuff kinda throws me off (maybe I'm over thinking it). Maybe there is a way to boot a gcp VM or any images I could find in some gcp marketplace or anything?

Going to do more googling and reading but just mentioning in case you know of any specific stuff. I see lawrencesystems also has some cool yt videos which have been really useful in learning about the concepts and ideas, but I'm kinda looking for a some gcp or aws based tutorial or steps.

andrewm4894

I think it's a netinstall like this that maybe I need to start with

https://xcp-ng.org/docs/install.html#iso-installation

And then I "have" the iso on the VM and so can go as normal from there.

If so, Amy tips on what gcp VM if any might be easiest to try start with?

Cheers!

olivierlambert

Ah that's a good question, I think I never tried to install it in an instance.

The easiest path would be likely to rent a cheap dedicated server. We also have a partnership with Equinix on their Cloud Metal offer.

Alternatively, if you like, we can provide you access to a test machine in there (or in our lab) so you can explore a bit

verhelsting

apologies if this was covered. is it possible to link a xcp-ng host to the netdata.cloud?

wawa

stormi Does XCP-ng support the v1.37.1 of netdata now? yum install netdata-ui installs v1.19.0, which doesn't look compatible with netdata cloud anymore. When attempting to add the node to netdata cloud, it fails with the error Unable to find usable claiming script. Reinstalling Netdata may resolve this.

stormi

wawa Not yet, but it's planned, hoping that their latest releases remain compatible with our base system.

wyatt-made

stormi Is it known that a newer version of Netdata breaks the hypervisor? I'm happy to try it myself in a test environment but if it's known to break things or just not work it'll save me a bit of time.

stormi

wyatt-made No such thing is known. I just haven't checked the compatibility yet.

grapesmc

Was searching around to see how I could enable with more current version of Netdata (with cloud support) - did this effort go stale?

thanks

Forza

grapesmc at one point I had the idea to set up a xcp-ng build environment and build netdata in there, then simply copy it over to the xcp-ng hosts. Unfortunately I was not able to dedicate the time to this so far.