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    Problems doing live/warm migrations from vSphere/ESXi 7 to XCP-ng

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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Carello
      last edited by florent

      @Carello The ticket will probably reach my desk. And for now I have only one user still stuck (and he's migrating to xenserver so I can't really count this as a miss). Hopefully we'll find a solution for you too , that will improve our solution for every one else

      (BTW, I work on Paris time )

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        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
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        transfer successfull
        There was a misconception the NFS mount should be a remote ( in XO side ) ,not a SR ( in XCP-ng side)

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Great news 🙂 Should we switch this thread as solved?

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            Carello @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert I'm afraid I'm still having some issues with migrations, and I'm hoping someone could clearify some things for me.

            First, most of the migrations I've attempted, have started with shutting down the VM on the VMware side, resulting in an offline migration.
            This does not seem correct, shouldn't the VM be shut down towards the end to synchronize changed data?

            Secondly, I'm receiving random "Error: EACCES: permission denied" errors at the end of migrations, so the VM is not migrated.
            In these cases, the source VM does not get shut down, which I'm guessing is the cause of the error?

            Overall, I'm starting to think that the import from VMware is not near ready to be used, which is very sad.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by olivierlambert

              @Carello Please do not jump to conclusions like this.

              Every day we have literally dozens of people using this tool to migrate. It's just there's so many different setups and configuration that it can't be magically working out of the box for everyone. If I understand correctly, your first issue was a configuration issue (not creating the right storage connection for XO). The EACCESS permission denied is likely also a permission issue. Note there's little we can do with our tool to avoid a bad configuration (except improving our doc and assist you). But as you can see, we are committed to assist 🙂

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                rfx77 @Carello
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                @Carello
                We also didnt get it to work with XO (vSphere 7 and 8). We used the Xen Conversion Manager VM (from XenServer) to do the conversion (With XCP-NG Center). This worked most of the time.

                When it did not work we used CloneZilla.

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                  john.c @rfx77
                  last edited by john.c

                  @rfx77 said in Problems doing live/warm migrations from vSphere/ESXi 7 to XCP-ng:

                  @Carello
                  We also didnt get it to work with XO (vSphere 7 and 8). We used the Xen Conversion Manager VM (from XenServer) to do the conversion (With XCP-NG Center). This worked most of the time.

                  When it did not work we used CloneZilla.

                  The Vates people released Yesterday a new update of Xen Orchestra on the Latest channel (if XOA), you'll need to wait if you require a stable release. With a significantly improved V2V tool, worth checking out to see if this will help.

                  https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xen-orchestra-5-94/

                  Also what edition of VMware ESXi or VMware vSphere are you using? Lower editions of these products have some restrictions which can impact the type of migration possible from VMware to Vates.

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                    Carello @rfx77
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                    @rfx77

                    With the help of @florent, we got this working and I have now performed 40+ migrations from vSphere 7 without any serious issues.
                    The main issue was the NFS datastore, which should not be mounted as a storage in XO, but as a Remote (still haven't found any documentation about this).

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                      rfx77 @Carello
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                      @Carello

                      Thanks. The problem is taht we dont have a NFS datastore to use. So we had to do export/import.

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                        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @rfx77
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                        @rfx77 said in Problems doing live/warm migrations from vSphere/ESXi 7 to XCP-ng:

                        @Carello

                        Thanks. The problem is taht we dont have a NFS datastore to use. So we had to do export/import.

                        you can migrate without a NFS datastore, but on esxi 6.5+ , you'll need to shutdown the VM before starting the migration
                        and with vsan there is an additionnal , slower steps : extractig the vmdk to a Remote (in XO )

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                          ITenthusiast @florent
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                          Not looking to revive this topic but wanted to post this documentation I found in case anyone else searching for answers stumbles here like I did. There are too links on this site that address some limitations that are not readily documented in the standard migration documentation.

                          https://help.vates.tech/kb/en-us/37-import-export-migration

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