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    Getting MESSAGE_METHOD_UNKNOWN(VDI.get_cbt_enabled) with XenServer 7.1

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    • M Offline
      marcom @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert I did double check,

      Unfortunately I'm in the case where all the options are disabled and I also double checked my Backup Job, but this one already double checked
      yesterday and I can't ignore it because the Job fail.

      If you need more information or log to understand better, just let me know, I will be happy to share the info to improve the tool,

      BR
      Marco

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        I think the issue is clear. I created it: https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/7877

        If it's not too hard to prevent, we'll fix it. In any case, I suggest to upgrade to XCP-ng, your XS is EOL.

        olivierlambert created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

        closed Don't block VHD backup if CBT doesn't exist #7877

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          marcom @olivierlambert
          last edited by

          @olivierlambert Yes I know, I'm evaluating several solution, also the Xen 8.2 and yours.

          I still don't have clear idea, I have to read more about your xcp-ng

          Thanks for the support

          BR
          Marco

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            On the technical side, upgrading to XS 7.1 to XCP-ng 8.2 will cost you exactly the same effort than upgrading from 7.1 to XS 8.2

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              nikade Top contributor @marcom
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              @marcom said in Getting MESSAGE_METHOD_UNKNOWN(VDI.get_cbt_enabled) with XenServer 7.1:

              @olivierlambert Yes I know, I'm evaluating several solution, also the Xen 8.2 and yours.

              I still don't have clear idea, I have to read more about your xcp-ng

              Thanks for the support

              BR
              Marco

              Do you currently pay for XenServer or are you using the free version?
              XenServer and XCP-NG is pretty much the same and XCP-NG offers both a free version AND a paid version which includes support, XCP-NG also offers more features than XenServer and the migration would be rather easy since you are already using XenServer.

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                marcom @nikade
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                @nikade Sorry for the late answer. At the moment running the free version, but I would like to switch to supported one, because we are a company and we want the systems and the support really reliable.

                There is something interesting that attract me in the project. Maybe I will ask a demo to @olivierlambert to go deep in some aspects.

                BR
                Marco

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                  nikade Top contributor @marcom
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                  @marcom said in Getting MESSAGE_METHOD_UNKNOWN(VDI.get_cbt_enabled) with XenServer 7.1:

                  @nikade Sorry for the late answer. At the moment running the free version, but I would like to switch to supported one, because we are a company and we want the systems and the support really reliable.

                  There is something interesting that attract me in the project. Maybe I will ask a demo to @olivierlambert to go deep in some aspects.

                  BR
                  Marco

                  I understand, I think you are correct about asking Vates for a presentation or a demo of some kind if you want to buy their supported product.

                  Remember that you can always setup a lab with the free/opensource version of XCP-NG 8.2.1 (8.3 will be released soon as well) and try stuff out.
                  The XCP-NG product is very much a like the XenServer product, but at the same time it is very different because of the enhancements made by Vates and the community.

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                    marcom @nikade
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                    @nikade yes I will do.
                    Easy question. With Xen actually I use also the Windows APP Xen center to manage the pool.
                    With XCP-ng if I undestood correctly will be used Orchestra as management tool, right?

                    In that case would be better to have Orchestra as physical server outside the Hypervisor environment? or?

                    BR
                    Marco

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      Everything is possible, you can run XO on the production pool or anywhere else. It's up to you. Both solutions work fine.

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                      • nikadeN Offline
                        nikade Top contributor
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                        I can only speak for myself, but we have always run it as a VM in the pool.
                        The VM itself will be migrated to a different host during maintenance, updates and so on as long as you have shared storage (iSCSI or NFS).

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                          marcom @olivierlambert
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                          mmm ok. Let's take an example. Full disaster recovery. I have my backups on the NAS but I lost everything and I have to install everything from scratch.
                          What are the steps I need to do? What I imagine is:

                          • reinstall the XCP-ng
                          • reinstall the Orchestra on it
                          • reconfigure the NAS on it

                          After that I can restore the metadata and backups, and also the shared storage will be reconfigured automatcally?

                          Are more or less those the steps?

                          BR
                          Marco

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                            nick.lloyd @marcom
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                            @marcom The only thing that I would add (and I'm guessing you knew, adding this just in case) is to restore the backup of XO(A) and the pool metadata.

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                              nikade Top contributor @nick.lloyd
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                              Exactly what @nick-lloyd said, it is important to backup XO configuration AND the pool metadata as well to be able to recovery completely.

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