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      djingo @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert @julien-f OK I got this figured out and it may be worth putting this as a tipp in the XO documentation:

      unRAID offers two kinds NFS exports as shares:

      • user (a virtual fs layer across the array of several disks)
      • disk (direkt fs access to the disk, not going through the array fs layer)

      Normally the disk type share is more compatible and faster. This is where XO remote encryption does not work.

      XO remote encryption works fine with the user type of shares.

      I am currently running some backups to see if not just the mount works and that it is actually working in operation.

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        djingo @djingo
        last edited by djingo

        I am now also seeing the "Trying to add data in unsupported state" problem,

        see this thread: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/84594

        That did never occur when the remote used for this backup was not encrypted.

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          stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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          @djingo said in NFS Remote encryption problem:

          "message": "ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/run/xo-server/mounts/e782c43e-2ac7-472c-...etc.../metadata.json'"

          Hi,

          Can you see if the specified path and file exist?

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            djingo @stephane-m-dev
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            @stephane-m-dev the path exists but it was empty.

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              stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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              @djingo said in NFS Remote encryption problem:

              @stephane-m-dev the path exists but it was empty.

              The problem doesn't happen on our enterprise NFS server with encryption.

              But I tested on a freshly installed personal NFS server, and I get the same error as you if I use encryption.

              We are investigating and will keep you informed.

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                stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
                last edited by stephane-m-dev

                @djingo

                It seems the problem happens when the directory shared contains non-hidden files.
                Can you try to add a NFS remote with encryption on an new empty directory, and let us know if it works?

                This is not specified, but the encrypted remote must not contain encrypted and unencrypted file, as they may conflict.
                We should add this information.

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                  djingo @stephane-m-dev
                  last edited by djingo

                  @stephane-m-dev the folder was positively empty, I explicitly removed all files before adding it as remote. Have you read what I wrote about different share types in unRAID?

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                    stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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                    @djingo Do you have any error logs on the unraid server side?

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                      djingo @stephane-m-dev
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                      @stephane-m-dev i checked, there was nothing

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                        stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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                        @djingo Can you share your NFS config file (/etc/exports) ?

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                          djingo @stephane-m-dev
                          last edited by djingo

                          @stephane-m-dev

                          the disk share (there the error occurs):
                          "/mnt/disk3" -fsid=87,async,no_subtree_check 192.168.100.0/24(sec=sys,rw,no_root_squash,insecure) *(sec=sys,ro,insecure,anongid=100,anonuid=99,all_squash)

                          the user share (here it works):
                          "/mnt/user/backup" -fsid=91,async,no_subtree_check 192.168.100.0/24(sec=sys,rw,no_root_squash,insecure) *(sec=sys,ro,insecure,anongid=100,anonuid=99,all_squash)

                          please also do not overlook the other problem with the full backup mode when encryption is used: "Trying to add data in unsupported state" (see above)

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                            stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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                            @djingo said in NFS Remote encryption problem:

                            "/mnt/disk3" -fsid=87,async,no_subtree_check 192.168.100.0/24(sec=sys,rw,no_root_squash,insecure) *(sec=sys,ro,insecure,anongid=100,anonuid=99,all_squash)

                            Thank you.
                            By reusing the same NFS config that fails on your server, I unfortunately could not reproduce the problem.
                            The only case where I saw the same error was when the shared directory already contained files, but you told me that was not your case.

                            We will work on improving error handling to better identify NFS server-specific problems.

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                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                              Maybe some hidden files? (eg be sure to display all files even hidden ones)

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                                stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @olivierlambert
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                                @olivierlambert No, in the code we only check for non-hidden files, and @djingo checked that the directory was totally empty.

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                                  djingo @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert ls -halF - nothing was there

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                                    djingo @stephane-m-dev
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                                    @stephane-m-dev well, have you tried this on an unraid server with a disk share? if not, you are still missing my point.

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                                      stephane-m-dev Vates 🪐 XO Team @djingo
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                                      @djingo As said before, we will work on improving error handling to better identify specific issues with some users' NFS servers.

                                      Unfortunately, we cannot reproduce the exact configuration of each user.

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                                        djingo @stephane-m-dev
                                        last edited by djingo

                                        @stephane-m-dev understood. My suggestion regarding the different behavior (does not work with disk share, does work with user share) on unraid would be to put this in a "tip" in the documentation section about setting up Remotes.

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