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    Imported VM Starts but Does Not Initialize the Display

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      kagbasi-ngc @stormi
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      @stormi I turned off Secure Boot and it's the same result. VM starts (according to the log) but doesn't proceed to POST.

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        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @kagbasi-ngc
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        @kagbasi-ngc So I believe this has more to do with nested virtualization. Does the XCP-ng VM have all the required virtualization capabilities?

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          kagbasi-ngc @stormi
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          @stormi Sorry for the delayed response. Yes, the XCP-ng VM has all the virtualization capabilities (as recommended in this guide- https://docs.xcp-ng.org/guides/xcpng-in-a-vm/). See screenshot below.

          Screenshot 2024-12-10 141443.png

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            Danp Pro Support Team @kagbasi-ngc
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            @kagbasi-ngc Maybe this? https://docs.xcp-ng.org/releases/release-8-3/#nested-virtualization-though-not-on-purpose

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              kagbasi-ngc @Danp
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              @Danp Well, that certainly puts a nail in this coffin...lol. Thanks for sharing, I'll stop testing then.

              @olivierlambert should we leave this thread as unsolved until such time as nested virtualization is functional again within the codebase?

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                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                Can you try with XCP-ng 8.2?

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                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Danp
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                  @Danp This is about hypervisors nested inside XCP-ng 8.3, but here as I understood it it was XCP-ng nested inside another hypervisor, so in theory it should not be related.

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                    kagbasi-ngc @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert So I managed to whip up a v8.2.1 instance and attempted to import the VM, but the import wouldn't start. I simply get the message in the top-right - "Starting import" - then it would go away.

                    I couldn't find any errors on the host logs, but I found this error within XO itself (i.e., Settings > Logs) :

                    Screenshot 2024-12-11 025730.png

                    My takeaway from this is that I cannot export a VM from a newer host and import it into an older one.

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                    • olivierlambertO Online
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      Note: you cannot import a VM from a more recent XCP-ng to an older one (the opposite works though)

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                        kagbasi-ngc @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert Hmm, so why would you encourage me to try it, if you knew it wouldn't work....lol. 😕

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                        • olivierlambertO Online
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          I encouraged you to test if nested XCP-ng 8.2 worked better than 8.3, that's it.

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                            kagbasi-ngc @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert Okay, so I'm at fault for reading too much into your guidance, eh? Okay.

                            In that case then, I think we'd already established that nested virtualization works - because I have been able to add an SR, create VMs, add VDIs, etc., in the nested virtualization environment on 8.3. The only thing that was failing for me, which is the primary reason for standing it up, is the import of a VM.

                            So is it safe to say this is not likely an issue with nested virtualization but with something else in the codebase that's preventing the imported VM from successfully initializing the display when in UEFI mode?

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                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @kagbasi-ngc
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                              @kagbasi-ngc I'd check the output of xl dmesg and the contents of /var/log/daemon.log and /var/log/xensource.log after trying to start the VM.

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                                kagbasi-ngc @stormi
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                                @stormi @olivierlambert

                                As requested, please find the outputs of the logs:

                                • Output of xl dmesg - https://gist.github.com/kismetgerald/403edf28d5fd358722d2bc36b52f38f1
                                • Output of /var/log/daemon.log - https://gist.github.com/kismetgerald/8965863047eee26b815dcfcfe4faabae
                                • Output of /var/log/xensource.log - https://gist.github.com/kismetgerald/4ed62e999d9920d697f06c8e42de9873

                                For time reference, I started the VM at approximately Dec 12 05:08 - don't recall the precise second. If I can provide other logs, please let me know.

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                                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @kagbasi-ngc
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                                  @kagbasi-ngc I was inviting you to have a look first, but I'll try to give it a look. Still, try to find something relevant in them, it's a good troubleshooting exercise.

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                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
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                                    Relevant logs, from daemon.log:

                                    Dec 12 05:08:18 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: SyncPcrAllocationsAndPcrMask!
                                    Dec 12 05:08:18 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: Set PcdTpm2Hash Mask to 0x0000000F
                                    Dec 12 05:08:19 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: AllocatePages failed: No 0x8400 Pages is available.
                                    Dec 12 05:08:19 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: There is only left 0x3AA8 pages memory resource to be allocated.
                                    Dec 12 05:08:19 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: ERROR: Out of aligned pages
                                    Dec 12 05:08:19 VMH01 qemu-dm-1[8691]: ASSERT /builddir/build/BUILD/edk2-20220801/MdeModulePkg/Core/DxeIplPeim/X64/VirtualMemory.c(814): BigPageAddress != 0
                                    

                                    ERROR: Out of aligned pages does not look good to me.

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                                      kagbasi-ngc @stormi
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                                      @stormi My apologies. Normally I relish the opportunity to dive deep into logs, however, in this case I am also the treasurer of my church and I have year-end accounting tasks to accomplish, so haven't had much time to dedicate to this.

                                      Additionally, since I don't really know what I'm looking for in the logs, I figured it's be best to share it on hear for the community to take a look...lol.

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                                        kagbasi-ngc @stormi
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                                        @stormi Yikes! If you're spooked by this error, then what does this mean for me?

                                        By the way, this very VM imported and started up without any issues on a physical XCP-ng host. This issue seems to be happening in a nested virtualization setting - where XCP-ng is the nested hypervisor (a guest of VMware Workstation Pro).

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                                          manilx @kagbasi-ngc
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                                          @kagbasi-ngc Don't do nesting! It's not to be trusted even when it seems to work.

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                                            kagbasi-ngc @manilx
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                                            @manilx Yeah, not doing it in production, just in a test environment. Plus I only did it because I actually found a write-up by the Vates team on how to get it done, which confirmed to me that while they don't recommend it for production, they understand that it has some merit in a testing environment and want to see it working.

                                            That said, I definitely hear your admonition and would never do it in a production setting.

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