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    • TeddyAstieT Online
      TeddyAstie Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team Xen Guru
      last edited by TeddyAstie

      It could be interesting to report all the information the guest can provide us, but there is no xenstore schema for that; and no support from xcp-rrdd either.

      Aside that, I don't think xe-guest-utilities consider cache memory as used; but there may be corner cases.
      What gives cat /proc/meminfo

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        jebrown @planedrop
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        @planedrop I'm using "citrix" tools for windows and I haven't noticed any of mine reporting any cached ram. Yet
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          planedrop Top contributor @jebrown
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          @jebrown OK good to know. This may be different on different OSes though, Windows may just report actually used RAM and leave out anything that is cached.

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            fred974 @TeddyAstie
            last edited by fred974

            Thank you all for your feedback on this matter. The OS used in this case ins Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS.

            @TeddyAstie said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

            What gives cat /proc/meminfo

            cat /proc/meminfo
            MemTotal:        8123972 kB
            MemFree:          440556 kB
            MemAvailable:    5419780 kB
            Buffers:          410852 kB
            Cached:          4761852 kB
            SwapCached:          328 kB
            Active:          2995088 kB
            Inactive:        3405912 kB
            Active(anon):     723800 kB
            Inactive(anon):  1399348 kB
            Active(file):    2271288 kB
            Inactive(file):  2006564 kB
            Unevictable:       27620 kB
            Mlocked:           27620 kB
            SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
            SwapFree:        4191228 kB
            Dirty:              1508 kB
            Writeback:             0 kB
            AnonPages:       1255676 kB
            Mapped:           939728 kB
            Shmem:            885788 kB
            KReclaimable:     995468 kB
            Slab:            1154076 kB
            SReclaimable:     995468 kB
            SUnreclaim:       158608 kB
            KernelStack:        4656 kB
            PageTables:        13848 kB
            NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
            Bounce:                0 kB
            WritebackTmp:          0 kB
            CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
            Committed_AS:    5873420 kB
            VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
            VmallocUsed:       18896 kB
            VmallocChunk:          0 kB
            Percpu:             4192 kB
            HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
            AnonHugePages:         0 kB
            ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
            ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
            FileHugePages:         0 kB
            FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
            HugePages_Total:       0
            HugePages_Free:        0
            HugePages_Rsvd:        0
            HugePages_Surp:        0
            Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
            Hugetlb:               0 kB
            DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
            DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
            DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
            
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              yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @TeddyAstie
              last edited by

              @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use. What do you see (reported by the agent) in xenstore ?

              From within the guest:

              # xenstore ls data
              meminfo_free = "324060"
              meminfo_total = "973736"
              os_distro = "Debian"
              os_name = "Debian 11"
              os_uname = "5.10.0-21-amd64"
              updated = "1"
              

              The meminfo_free should match what you see in /proc/meminfo.

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                fred974 @yann
                last edited by

                @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                xenstore ls data

                Here is what I see:
                cat /proc/meminfo

                MemTotal:        8123972 kB
                MemFree:          428388 kB
                MemAvailable:    5419696 kB
                Buffers:          411604 kB
                Cached:          4771524 kB
                SwapCached:          328 kB
                Active:          3060024 kB
                Inactive:        3339116 kB
                Active(anon):     736300 kB
                Inactive(anon):  1374628 kB
                Active(file):    2323724 kB
                Inactive(file):  1964488 kB
                Unevictable:       27620 kB
                Mlocked:           27620 kB
                SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
                SwapFree:        4191228 kB
                Dirty:               284 kB
                Writeback:             0 kB
                AnonPages:       1243360 kB
                Mapped:           919268 kB
                Shmem:            885852 kB
                KReclaimable:     997192 kB
                Slab:            1155308 kB
                SReclaimable:     997192 kB
                SUnreclaim:       158116 kB
                KernelStack:        4432 kB
                PageTables:        13128 kB
                NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
                Bounce:                0 kB
                WritebackTmp:          0 kB
                CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
                Committed_AS:    5854320 kB
                VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
                VmallocUsed:       18656 kB
                VmallocChunk:          0 kB
                Percpu:             4192 kB
                HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
                AnonHugePages:         0 kB
                ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
                ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
                FileHugePages:         0 kB
                FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
                HugePages_Total:       0
                HugePages_Free:        0
                HugePages_Rsvd:        0
                HugePages_Surp:        0
                Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
                Hugetlb:               0 kB
                DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
                DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
                DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
                

                xenstore ls data

                meminfo_free = "422892"
                meminfo_total = "8123972"
                os_distro = "ubuntu"
                os_majorver = "22"
                os_minorver = "04"
                os_name = "Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS"
                os_uname = "5.15.0-128-generic"
                updated = "Mon Jan  6 11:52:45 2025"
                volumes = ""
                 0 = ""
                  extents = ""
                   0 = "xvda"
                  filesystem = "ext4"
                  free = "142059319296"
                  mount_points = ""
                   0 = "/"
                  name = "/dev/xvda1(072768fc-9db5-4fa4-a6a1-c98afdd82d32)"
                  size = "171682283008"
                 1 = ""
                  extents = ""
                   0 = "xvda"
                  free = "4138934272"
                  name = "/dev/xvda14"
                  size = "4194304"
                 2 = ""
                  extents = ""
                   0 = "xvda"
                  filesystem = "vfat"
                  free = "103057408"
                  mount_points = ""
                   0 = "/boot/efi"
                  name = "/dev/xvda15(D9A6-D2AA)"
                  size = "111149056"
                 3 = ""
                  extents = ""
                   0 = "xvdb"
                  free = "4138934272"
                  name = "/dev/xvdb1(355A-4FC2)"
                  size = "10486272"
                

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                  fred974 @fred974
                  last edited by

                  It would be great to have a bit for details on the memory so we can monitor the system better.

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                    fred974 @yann
                    last edited by

                    @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                    @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use.

                    Doesn't seem to be the case

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                      yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                      last edited by

                      @fred974 right, it is reporting MemFree here.

                      What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                      Old xe-guest-utilities before v7.30 indeed reported MemFree, which XenServer then improved in v8.4 to still report something for kernels older than 3.14 which did not have MemAvailable yet, but Ubuntu 22.04 ships a decently-recent kernel, so I suspect it would be rather due to an old xe-guest-utilities.

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                        fred974 @yann
                        last edited by

                        @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                        What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                        BuildVersion = "0"
                        Installed = "1"
                        MajorVersion = "6"
                        MicroVersion = "80"
                        MinorVersion = "6"
                        

                        hostnamectl status

                           Static hostname: WEB1-OLS-QHUK
                        Transient hostname: web1-ols-qh-uk
                                 Icon name: computer-vm
                                   Chassis: vm
                                Machine ID: 3b1da9b8e5cf4ecda845219bxxx
                                   Boot ID: 19308dbfd7d347c699985e82xxx
                            Virtualization: xen
                          Operating System: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS              
                                    Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-128-generic
                              Architecture: x86-64
                           Hardware Vendor: Xen
                            Hardware Model: HVM domU
                        
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                        • yannY Offline
                          yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                          last edited by

                          @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

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                            fred974 @yann
                            last edited by

                            @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                            @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

                            Probably because I installed xe-guest-utilities from ububtu repo.. I tried to update from the CD and got the following error:
                            bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                            Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                            
                            The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                              * update arp_notify sysctl.
                              * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                                - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                            
                            Continue? [y/n] y
                            
                            (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                            Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                            Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) over (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                            dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                             trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                            dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                            Errors were encountered while processing:
                             /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                            

                            Could anyone advice of how to fix this issue? I tried apt remove xe-guest-utilities and got the same error

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                              yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                              last edited by

                              @fred974 there is an undeclared conflict between the xe-guest-utilities in the ISO and xenstore-utils, you can install the former after removing the latter (but yes, it is a problem, the Go implementation of xenstore tools should not be in this package).

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                                fred974 @yann
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                                @yann I removed the tools using apt remove xe-guest-utilities and tried to install from the cd and had the same error
                                apt remove xe-guest-utilities

                                Reading package lists... Done
                                Building dependency tree... Done
                                Reading state information... Done
                                The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
                                  dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                  php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                  php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                                Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
                                The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                  xe-guest-utilities
                                0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
                                After this operation, 1889 kB disk space will be freed.
                                N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                                Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                                (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                                Removing xe-guest-utilities (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                                needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
                                root@WEB1-OLS-QHUK:/home/fetheve/Linux# apt autoremove
                                Reading package lists... Done
                                Building dependency tree... Done
                                Reading state information... Done
                                The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                  dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                  php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                  php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                                0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 36 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
                                After this operation, 42.0 MB disk space will be freed.
                                N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                                Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                                (Reading database ... 136950 files and directories currently installed.)
                                Removing dbconfig-mysql (2.0.21) ...
                                Removing dbconfig-common (2.0.21) ...
                                Removing php-tcpdf (6.4.4+dfsg1-1) ...
                                Removing icc-profiles-free (2.0.1+dfsg-1.1) ...
                                Removing libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                                Removing libaprutil1-ldap:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                                Removing libjs-bootstrap4 (4.6.0+dfsg1-4) ...
                                Removing libjs-codemirror (5.65.0+~cs5.83.9-1) ...
                                Removing libjs-jquery-mousewheel (1:3.1.13-5) ...
                                Removing libjs-jquery-timepicker (1.6.3-1) ...
                                Removing libjs-jquery-ui (1.13.1+dfsg-1) ...
                                Removing libjs-popper.js (1.16.1+ds-5) ...
                                Removing libjs-sizzle (2.3.6+ds+~2.3.3-1) ...
                                Removing liblua5.3-0:amd64 (5.3.6-1build1) ...
                                Removing libmcrypt4 (2.5.8-7) ...
                                Removing node-jquery (3.6.0+dfsg+~3.5.13-1) ...
                                Removing php-phpmyadmin-motranslator (5.2.0-1build1) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-expression-language (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-cache (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-var-exporter (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-dependency-injection (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-service-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                Removing php-google-recaptcha (1.2.4-3) ...
                                Removing php-mariadb-mysql-kbs (1.2.12-1) ...
                                Removing php-nikic-fast-route (1.3.0-3) ...
                                Removing php-phpmyadmin-shapefile (2.1-5) ...
                                Removing php-phpseclib (2.0.36-1) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-cache-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                Removing php-psr-cache (3.0.0-1) ...
                                Removing php-psr-container (2.0.2-1) ...
                                Removing php-psr-log (3.0.0-1) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-deprecation-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php80 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php81 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                Removing ssl-cert (1.1.2) ...
                                Removing php-common (2:92ubuntu1) ...
                                Warning: Stopping phpsessionclean.service, but it can still be activated by:
                                  phpsessionclean.timer
                                Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.2-1) ...
                                Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.35-0ubuntu3.8) ...
                                Scanning processes...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                Scanning linux images...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                
                                Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.
                                
                                No services need to be restarted.
                                
                                No containers need to be restarted.
                                
                                No user sessions are running outdated binaries.
                                
                                No VM guests are running outdated hypervisor (qemu) binaries on this host.
                                

                                bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                                Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                                
                                The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                                  * update arp_notify sysctl.
                                  * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                                    - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                                
                                Continue? [y/n] y
                                
                                Selecting previously unselected package xe-guest-utilities.
                                (Reading database ... 134088 files and directories currently installed.)
                                Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                                Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) ...
                                dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                                 trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                                dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                                Errors were encountered while processing:
                                 /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                                

                                How can I fix this?

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                                  fred974 @fred974
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                                  @fred974 said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                                  xenstore-utils

                                  apt remove xenstore-utils fix the installation issue.

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                                    fred974 @fred974
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                                    Its seem to be reporting correctly now. Thank you all for your help.
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