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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      Adding @yann and @TeddyAstie in the convo (since we maybe need to report both, IDK)

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      • TeddyAstieT Offline
        TeddyAstie Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team Xen Guru
        last edited by TeddyAstie

        It could be interesting to report all the information the guest can provide us, but there is no xenstore schema for that; and no support from xcp-rrdd either.

        Aside that, I don't think xe-guest-utilities consider cache memory as used; but there may be corner cases.
        What gives cat /proc/meminfo

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          jebrown @planedrop
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          @planedrop I'm using "citrix" tools for windows and I haven't noticed any of mine reporting any cached ram. Yet
          cached ram.png status.png

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          • planedropP Offline
            planedrop Top contributor @jebrown
            last edited by

            @jebrown OK good to know. This may be different on different OSes though, Windows may just report actually used RAM and leave out anything that is cached.

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              fred974 @TeddyAstie
              last edited by fred974

              Thank you all for your feedback on this matter. The OS used in this case ins Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS.

              @TeddyAstie said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

              What gives cat /proc/meminfo

              cat /proc/meminfo
              MemTotal:        8123972 kB
              MemFree:          440556 kB
              MemAvailable:    5419780 kB
              Buffers:          410852 kB
              Cached:          4761852 kB
              SwapCached:          328 kB
              Active:          2995088 kB
              Inactive:        3405912 kB
              Active(anon):     723800 kB
              Inactive(anon):  1399348 kB
              Active(file):    2271288 kB
              Inactive(file):  2006564 kB
              Unevictable:       27620 kB
              Mlocked:           27620 kB
              SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
              SwapFree:        4191228 kB
              Dirty:              1508 kB
              Writeback:             0 kB
              AnonPages:       1255676 kB
              Mapped:           939728 kB
              Shmem:            885788 kB
              KReclaimable:     995468 kB
              Slab:            1154076 kB
              SReclaimable:     995468 kB
              SUnreclaim:       158608 kB
              KernelStack:        4656 kB
              PageTables:        13848 kB
              NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
              Bounce:                0 kB
              WritebackTmp:          0 kB
              CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
              Committed_AS:    5873420 kB
              VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
              VmallocUsed:       18896 kB
              VmallocChunk:          0 kB
              Percpu:             4192 kB
              HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
              AnonHugePages:         0 kB
              ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
              ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
              FileHugePages:         0 kB
              FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
              HugePages_Total:       0
              HugePages_Free:        0
              HugePages_Rsvd:        0
              HugePages_Surp:        0
              Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
              Hugetlb:               0 kB
              DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
              DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
              DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
              
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                yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @TeddyAstie
                last edited by

                @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use. What do you see (reported by the agent) in xenstore ?

                From within the guest:

                # xenstore ls data
                meminfo_free = "324060"
                meminfo_total = "973736"
                os_distro = "Debian"
                os_name = "Debian 11"
                os_uname = "5.10.0-21-amd64"
                updated = "1"
                

                The meminfo_free should match what you see in /proc/meminfo.

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                  fred974 @yann
                  last edited by

                  @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                  xenstore ls data

                  Here is what I see:
                  cat /proc/meminfo

                  MemTotal:        8123972 kB
                  MemFree:          428388 kB
                  MemAvailable:    5419696 kB
                  Buffers:          411604 kB
                  Cached:          4771524 kB
                  SwapCached:          328 kB
                  Active:          3060024 kB
                  Inactive:        3339116 kB
                  Active(anon):     736300 kB
                  Inactive(anon):  1374628 kB
                  Active(file):    2323724 kB
                  Inactive(file):  1964488 kB
                  Unevictable:       27620 kB
                  Mlocked:           27620 kB
                  SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
                  SwapFree:        4191228 kB
                  Dirty:               284 kB
                  Writeback:             0 kB
                  AnonPages:       1243360 kB
                  Mapped:           919268 kB
                  Shmem:            885852 kB
                  KReclaimable:     997192 kB
                  Slab:            1155308 kB
                  SReclaimable:     997192 kB
                  SUnreclaim:       158116 kB
                  KernelStack:        4432 kB
                  PageTables:        13128 kB
                  NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
                  Bounce:                0 kB
                  WritebackTmp:          0 kB
                  CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
                  Committed_AS:    5854320 kB
                  VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
                  VmallocUsed:       18656 kB
                  VmallocChunk:          0 kB
                  Percpu:             4192 kB
                  HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
                  AnonHugePages:         0 kB
                  ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
                  ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
                  FileHugePages:         0 kB
                  FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
                  HugePages_Total:       0
                  HugePages_Free:        0
                  HugePages_Rsvd:        0
                  HugePages_Surp:        0
                  Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
                  Hugetlb:               0 kB
                  DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
                  DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
                  DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
                  

                  xenstore ls data

                  meminfo_free = "422892"
                  meminfo_total = "8123972"
                  os_distro = "ubuntu"
                  os_majorver = "22"
                  os_minorver = "04"
                  os_name = "Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS"
                  os_uname = "5.15.0-128-generic"
                  updated = "Mon Jan  6 11:52:45 2025"
                  volumes = ""
                   0 = ""
                    extents = ""
                     0 = "xvda"
                    filesystem = "ext4"
                    free = "142059319296"
                    mount_points = ""
                     0 = "/"
                    name = "/dev/xvda1(072768fc-9db5-4fa4-a6a1-c98afdd82d32)"
                    size = "171682283008"
                   1 = ""
                    extents = ""
                     0 = "xvda"
                    free = "4138934272"
                    name = "/dev/xvda14"
                    size = "4194304"
                   2 = ""
                    extents = ""
                     0 = "xvda"
                    filesystem = "vfat"
                    free = "103057408"
                    mount_points = ""
                     0 = "/boot/efi"
                    name = "/dev/xvda15(D9A6-D2AA)"
                    size = "111149056"
                   3 = ""
                    extents = ""
                     0 = "xvdb"
                    free = "4138934272"
                    name = "/dev/xvdb1(355A-4FC2)"
                    size = "10486272"
                  

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                    fred974 @fred974
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                    It would be great to have a bit for details on the memory so we can monitor the system better.

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                      fred974 @yann
                      last edited by

                      @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                      @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use.

                      Doesn't seem to be the case

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                      • yannY Offline
                        yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                        last edited by

                        @fred974 right, it is reporting MemFree here.

                        What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                        Old xe-guest-utilities before v7.30 indeed reported MemFree, which XenServer then improved in v8.4 to still report something for kernels older than 3.14 which did not have MemAvailable yet, but Ubuntu 22.04 ships a decently-recent kernel, so I suspect it would be rather due to an old xe-guest-utilities.

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                          fred974 @yann
                          last edited by

                          @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                          What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                          BuildVersion = "0"
                          Installed = "1"
                          MajorVersion = "6"
                          MicroVersion = "80"
                          MinorVersion = "6"
                          

                          hostnamectl status

                             Static hostname: WEB1-OLS-QHUK
                          Transient hostname: web1-ols-qh-uk
                                   Icon name: computer-vm
                                     Chassis: vm
                                  Machine ID: 3b1da9b8e5cf4ecda845219bxxx
                                     Boot ID: 19308dbfd7d347c699985e82xxx
                              Virtualization: xen
                            Operating System: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS              
                                      Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-128-generic
                                Architecture: x86-64
                             Hardware Vendor: Xen
                              Hardware Model: HVM domU
                          
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                          • yannY Offline
                            yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                            last edited by

                            @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

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                              fred974 @yann
                              last edited by

                              @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                              @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

                              Probably because I installed xe-guest-utilities from ububtu repo.. I tried to update from the CD and got the following error:
                              bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                              Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                              
                              The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                                * update arp_notify sysctl.
                                * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                                  - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                              
                              Continue? [y/n] y
                              
                              (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                              Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) over (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                              dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                               trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                              dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                              Errors were encountered while processing:
                               /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                              

                              Could anyone advice of how to fix this issue? I tried apt remove xe-guest-utilities and got the same error

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                              • yannY Offline
                                yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                                last edited by

                                @fred974 there is an undeclared conflict between the xe-guest-utilities in the ISO and xenstore-utils, you can install the former after removing the latter (but yes, it is a problem, the Go implementation of xenstore tools should not be in this package).

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                                  fred974 @yann
                                  last edited by

                                  @yann I removed the tools using apt remove xe-guest-utilities and tried to install from the cd and had the same error
                                  apt remove xe-guest-utilities

                                  Reading package lists... Done
                                  Building dependency tree... Done
                                  Reading state information... Done
                                  The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
                                    dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                    php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                    php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                                  Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
                                  The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                    xe-guest-utilities
                                  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
                                  After this operation, 1889 kB disk space will be freed.
                                  N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                                  Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                                  (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                                  Removing xe-guest-utilities (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                                  needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
                                  root@WEB1-OLS-QHUK:/home/fetheve/Linux# apt autoremove
                                  Reading package lists... Done
                                  Building dependency tree... Done
                                  Reading state information... Done
                                  The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                    dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                    php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                    php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                                  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 36 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
                                  After this operation, 42.0 MB disk space will be freed.
                                  N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                                  Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                                  (Reading database ... 136950 files and directories currently installed.)
                                  Removing dbconfig-mysql (2.0.21) ...
                                  Removing dbconfig-common (2.0.21) ...
                                  Removing php-tcpdf (6.4.4+dfsg1-1) ...
                                  Removing icc-profiles-free (2.0.1+dfsg-1.1) ...
                                  Removing libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                                  Removing libaprutil1-ldap:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                                  Removing libjs-bootstrap4 (4.6.0+dfsg1-4) ...
                                  Removing libjs-codemirror (5.65.0+~cs5.83.9-1) ...
                                  Removing libjs-jquery-mousewheel (1:3.1.13-5) ...
                                  Removing libjs-jquery-timepicker (1.6.3-1) ...
                                  Removing libjs-jquery-ui (1.13.1+dfsg-1) ...
                                  Removing libjs-popper.js (1.16.1+ds-5) ...
                                  Removing libjs-sizzle (2.3.6+ds+~2.3.3-1) ...
                                  Removing liblua5.3-0:amd64 (5.3.6-1build1) ...
                                  Removing libmcrypt4 (2.5.8-7) ...
                                  Removing node-jquery (3.6.0+dfsg+~3.5.13-1) ...
                                  Removing php-phpmyadmin-motranslator (5.2.0-1build1) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-expression-language (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-cache (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-var-exporter (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-dependency-injection (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-service-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                  Removing php-google-recaptcha (1.2.4-3) ...
                                  Removing php-mariadb-mysql-kbs (1.2.12-1) ...
                                  Removing php-nikic-fast-route (1.3.0-3) ...
                                  Removing php-phpmyadmin-shapefile (2.1-5) ...
                                  Removing php-phpseclib (2.0.36-1) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-cache-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                  Removing php-psr-cache (3.0.0-1) ...
                                  Removing php-psr-container (2.0.2-1) ...
                                  Removing php-psr-log (3.0.0-1) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-deprecation-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php80 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                  Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php81 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                                  Removing ssl-cert (1.1.2) ...
                                  Removing php-common (2:92ubuntu1) ...
                                  Warning: Stopping phpsessionclean.service, but it can still be activated by:
                                    phpsessionclean.timer
                                  Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.2-1) ...
                                  Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.35-0ubuntu3.8) ...
                                  Scanning processes...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                  Scanning linux images...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                  
                                  Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.
                                  
                                  No services need to be restarted.
                                  
                                  No containers need to be restarted.
                                  
                                  No user sessions are running outdated binaries.
                                  
                                  No VM guests are running outdated hypervisor (qemu) binaries on this host.
                                  

                                  bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                                  Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                                  
                                  The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                                    * update arp_notify sysctl.
                                    * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                                      - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                                  
                                  Continue? [y/n] y
                                  
                                  Selecting previously unselected package xe-guest-utilities.
                                  (Reading database ... 134088 files and directories currently installed.)
                                  Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                                  Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) ...
                                  dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                                   trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                                  dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                                  Errors were encountered while processing:
                                   /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                                  

                                  How can I fix this?

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                                    fred974 @fred974
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                                    @fred974 said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                                    xenstore-utils

                                    apt remove xenstore-utils fix the installation issue.

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                                      fred974 @fred974
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                                      Its seem to be reporting correctly now. Thank you all for your help.
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                                        Great news 🙂

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