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    • J Offline
      jebrown @planedrop
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      @planedrop I'm using "citrix" tools for windows and I haven't noticed any of mine reporting any cached ram. Yet
      cached ram.png status.png

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        planedrop Top contributor @jebrown
        last edited by

        @jebrown OK good to know. This may be different on different OSes though, Windows may just report actually used RAM and leave out anything that is cached.

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          fred974 @TeddyAstie
          last edited by fred974

          Thank you all for your feedback on this matter. The OS used in this case ins Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS.

          @TeddyAstie said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

          What gives cat /proc/meminfo

          cat /proc/meminfo
          MemTotal:        8123972 kB
          MemFree:          440556 kB
          MemAvailable:    5419780 kB
          Buffers:          410852 kB
          Cached:          4761852 kB
          SwapCached:          328 kB
          Active:          2995088 kB
          Inactive:        3405912 kB
          Active(anon):     723800 kB
          Inactive(anon):  1399348 kB
          Active(file):    2271288 kB
          Inactive(file):  2006564 kB
          Unevictable:       27620 kB
          Mlocked:           27620 kB
          SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
          SwapFree:        4191228 kB
          Dirty:              1508 kB
          Writeback:             0 kB
          AnonPages:       1255676 kB
          Mapped:           939728 kB
          Shmem:            885788 kB
          KReclaimable:     995468 kB
          Slab:            1154076 kB
          SReclaimable:     995468 kB
          SUnreclaim:       158608 kB
          KernelStack:        4656 kB
          PageTables:        13848 kB
          NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
          Bounce:                0 kB
          WritebackTmp:          0 kB
          CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
          Committed_AS:    5873420 kB
          VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
          VmallocUsed:       18896 kB
          VmallocChunk:          0 kB
          Percpu:             4192 kB
          HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
          AnonHugePages:         0 kB
          ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
          ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
          FileHugePages:         0 kB
          FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
          HugePages_Total:       0
          HugePages_Free:        0
          HugePages_Rsvd:        0
          HugePages_Surp:        0
          Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
          Hugetlb:               0 kB
          DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
          DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
          DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
          
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            yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @TeddyAstie
            last edited by

            @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use. What do you see (reported by the agent) in xenstore ?

            From within the guest:

            # xenstore ls data
            meminfo_free = "324060"
            meminfo_total = "973736"
            os_distro = "Debian"
            os_name = "Debian 11"
            os_uname = "5.10.0-21-amd64"
            updated = "1"
            

            The meminfo_free should match what you see in /proc/meminfo.

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              fred974 @yann
              last edited by

              @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

              xenstore ls data

              Here is what I see:
              cat /proc/meminfo

              MemTotal:        8123972 kB
              MemFree:          428388 kB
              MemAvailable:    5419696 kB
              Buffers:          411604 kB
              Cached:          4771524 kB
              SwapCached:          328 kB
              Active:          3060024 kB
              Inactive:        3339116 kB
              Active(anon):     736300 kB
              Inactive(anon):  1374628 kB
              Active(file):    2323724 kB
              Inactive(file):  1964488 kB
              Unevictable:       27620 kB
              Mlocked:           27620 kB
              SwapTotal:       4194300 kB
              SwapFree:        4191228 kB
              Dirty:               284 kB
              Writeback:             0 kB
              AnonPages:       1243360 kB
              Mapped:           919268 kB
              Shmem:            885852 kB
              KReclaimable:     997192 kB
              Slab:            1155308 kB
              SReclaimable:     997192 kB
              SUnreclaim:       158116 kB
              KernelStack:        4432 kB
              PageTables:        13128 kB
              NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
              Bounce:                0 kB
              WritebackTmp:          0 kB
              CommitLimit:     8256284 kB
              Committed_AS:    5854320 kB
              VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
              VmallocUsed:       18656 kB
              VmallocChunk:          0 kB
              Percpu:             4192 kB
              HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
              AnonHugePages:         0 kB
              ShmemHugePages:        0 kB
              ShmemPmdMapped:        0 kB
              FileHugePages:         0 kB
              FilePmdMapped:         0 kB
              HugePages_Total:       0
              HugePages_Free:        0
              HugePages_Rsvd:        0
              HugePages_Surp:        0
              Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
              Hugetlb:               0 kB
              DirectMap4k:      307200 kB
              DirectMap2M:     8077312 kB
              DirectMap1G:     1048576 kB
              

              xenstore ls data

              meminfo_free = "422892"
              meminfo_total = "8123972"
              os_distro = "ubuntu"
              os_majorver = "22"
              os_minorver = "04"
              os_name = "Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS"
              os_uname = "5.15.0-128-generic"
              updated = "Mon Jan  6 11:52:45 2025"
              volumes = ""
               0 = ""
                extents = ""
                 0 = "xvda"
                filesystem = "ext4"
                free = "142059319296"
                mount_points = ""
                 0 = "/"
                name = "/dev/xvda1(072768fc-9db5-4fa4-a6a1-c98afdd82d32)"
                size = "171682283008"
               1 = ""
                extents = ""
                 0 = "xvda"
                free = "4138934272"
                name = "/dev/xvda14"
                size = "4194304"
               2 = ""
                extents = ""
                 0 = "xvda"
                filesystem = "vfat"
                free = "103057408"
                mount_points = ""
                 0 = "/boot/efi"
                name = "/dev/xvda15(D9A6-D2AA)"
                size = "111149056"
               3 = ""
                extents = ""
                 0 = "xvdb"
                free = "4138934272"
                name = "/dev/xvdb1(355A-4FC2)"
                size = "10486272"
              

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                fred974 @fred974
                last edited by

                It would be great to have a bit for details on the memory so we can monitor the system better.

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                  fred974 @yann
                  last edited by

                  @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                  @fred974 the tools should be reporting the value from MemAvailable, so buffer/cache should not be considered as in-use.

                  Doesn't seem to be the case

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                    yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                    last edited by

                    @fred974 right, it is reporting MemFree here.

                    What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                    Old xe-guest-utilities before v7.30 indeed reported MemFree, which XenServer then improved in v8.4 to still report something for kernels older than 3.14 which did not have MemAvailable yet, but Ubuntu 22.04 ships a decently-recent kernel, so I suspect it would be rather due to an old xe-guest-utilities.

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                      fred974 @yann
                      last edited by

                      @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                      What does xenstore ls attr/PVAddons show for this VM? And which kernel version is it using?

                      BuildVersion = "0"
                      Installed = "1"
                      MajorVersion = "6"
                      MicroVersion = "80"
                      MinorVersion = "6"
                      

                      hostnamectl status

                         Static hostname: WEB1-OLS-QHUK
                      Transient hostname: web1-ols-qh-uk
                               Icon name: computer-vm
                                 Chassis: vm
                              Machine ID: 3b1da9b8e5cf4ecda845219bxxx
                                 Boot ID: 19308dbfd7d347c699985e82xxx
                          Virtualization: xen
                        Operating System: Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS              
                                  Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-128-generic
                            Architecture: x86-64
                         Hardware Vendor: Xen
                          Hardware Model: HVM domU
                      
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                      • yannY Offline
                        yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                        last edited by

                        @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

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                          fred974 @yann
                          last edited by

                          @yann said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                          @fred974 v6.80.6 is definitely very old, and did report MemFree, we ship v7.30 with XCP-ng 8.2. You will likely want to update it, from the "XCP-ng tools" SR.

                          Probably because I installed xe-guest-utilities from ububtu repo.. I tried to update from the CD and got the following error:
                          bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                          Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                          
                          The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                            * update arp_notify sysctl.
                            * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                              - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                          
                          Continue? [y/n] y
                          
                          (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                          Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                          Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) over (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                          dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                           trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                          dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                          Errors were encountered while processing:
                           /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                          

                          Could anyone advice of how to fix this issue? I tried apt remove xe-guest-utilities and got the same error

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                            yann Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fred974
                            last edited by

                            @fred974 there is an undeclared conflict between the xe-guest-utilities in the ISO and xenstore-utils, you can install the former after removing the latter (but yes, it is a problem, the Go implementation of xenstore tools should not be in this package).

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                              fred974 @yann
                              last edited by

                              @yann I removed the tools using apt remove xe-guest-utilities and tried to install from the cd and had the same error
                              apt remove xe-guest-utilities

                              Reading package lists... Done
                              Building dependency tree... Done
                              Reading state information... Done
                              The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
                                dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                              Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
                              The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                xe-guest-utilities
                              0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
                              After this operation, 1889 kB disk space will be freed.
                              N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                              Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                              (Reading database ... 136958 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Removing xe-guest-utilities (7.20.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.2) ...
                              needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
                              root@WEB1-OLS-QHUK:/home/fetheve/Linux# apt autoremove
                              Reading package lists... Done
                              Building dependency tree... Done
                              Reading state information... Done
                              The following packages will be REMOVED:
                                dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql icc-profiles-free libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libjs-bootstrap4 libjs-codemirror libjs-jquery-mousewheel libjs-jquery-timepicker libjs-jquery-ui libjs-popper.js libjs-sizzle liblua5.3-0 libmcrypt4 node-jquery php-common php-google-recaptcha php-mariadb-mysql-kbs
                                php-nikic-fast-route php-phpmyadmin-motranslator php-phpmyadmin-shapefile php-phpseclib php-psr-cache php-psr-container php-psr-log php-symfony-cache php-symfony-cache-contracts php-symfony-dependency-injection php-symfony-deprecation-contracts php-symfony-expression-language php-symfony-polyfill-php80
                                php-symfony-polyfill-php81 php-symfony-service-contracts php-symfony-var-exporter php-tcpdf ssl-cert
                              0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 36 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
                              After this operation, 42.0 MB disk space will be freed.
                              N: Ignoring file 'mariadb.list.old_1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
                              Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                              (Reading database ... 136950 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Removing dbconfig-mysql (2.0.21) ...
                              Removing dbconfig-common (2.0.21) ...
                              Removing php-tcpdf (6.4.4+dfsg1-1) ...
                              Removing icc-profiles-free (2.0.1+dfsg-1.1) ...
                              Removing libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                              Removing libaprutil1-ldap:amd64 (1.6.1-5ubuntu4.22.04.2) ...
                              Removing libjs-bootstrap4 (4.6.0+dfsg1-4) ...
                              Removing libjs-codemirror (5.65.0+~cs5.83.9-1) ...
                              Removing libjs-jquery-mousewheel (1:3.1.13-5) ...
                              Removing libjs-jquery-timepicker (1.6.3-1) ...
                              Removing libjs-jquery-ui (1.13.1+dfsg-1) ...
                              Removing libjs-popper.js (1.16.1+ds-5) ...
                              Removing libjs-sizzle (2.3.6+ds+~2.3.3-1) ...
                              Removing liblua5.3-0:amd64 (5.3.6-1build1) ...
                              Removing libmcrypt4 (2.5.8-7) ...
                              Removing node-jquery (3.6.0+dfsg+~3.5.13-1) ...
                              Removing php-phpmyadmin-motranslator (5.2.0-1build1) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-expression-language (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-cache (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-var-exporter (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-dependency-injection (5.4.4+dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-service-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                              Removing php-google-recaptcha (1.2.4-3) ...
                              Removing php-mariadb-mysql-kbs (1.2.12-1) ...
                              Removing php-nikic-fast-route (1.3.0-3) ...
                              Removing php-phpmyadmin-shapefile (2.1-5) ...
                              Removing php-phpseclib (2.0.36-1) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-cache-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                              Removing php-psr-cache (3.0.0-1) ...
                              Removing php-psr-container (2.0.2-1) ...
                              Removing php-psr-log (3.0.0-1) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-deprecation-contracts (2.4.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php80 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                              Removing php-symfony-polyfill-php81 (1.24.0-1ubuntu2) ...
                              Removing ssl-cert (1.1.2) ...
                              Removing php-common (2:92ubuntu1) ...
                              Warning: Stopping phpsessionclean.service, but it can still be activated by:
                                phpsessionclean.timer
                              Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.2-1) ...
                              Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.35-0ubuntu3.8) ...
                              Scanning processes...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                              Scanning linux images...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                              
                              Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.
                              
                              No services need to be restarted.
                              
                              No containers need to be restarted.
                              
                              No user sessions are running outdated binaries.
                              
                              No VM guests are running outdated hypervisor (qemu) binaries on this host.
                              

                              bash /mnt/Linux/install.sh

                              Detected `Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS' (ubuntu version 22).
                              
                              The following changes will be made to this Virtual Machine:
                                * update arp_notify sysctl.
                                * packages to be installed/upgraded:
                                  - xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                              
                              Continue? [y/n] y
                              
                              Selecting previously unselected package xe-guest-utilities.
                              (Reading database ... 134088 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Preparing to unpack .../xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb ...
                              Unpacking xe-guest-utilities (7.30.0-12) ...
                              dpkg: error processing archive /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb (--install):
                               trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/xenstore', which is also in package xenstore-utils 4.16.0-1~ubuntu2.1
                              dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
                              Errors were encountered while processing:
                               /mnt/Linux/xe-guest-utilities_7.30.0-12_amd64.deb
                              

                              How can I fix this?

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                                fred974 @fred974
                                last edited by

                                @fred974 said in Memory reporting incorrect values:

                                xenstore-utils

                                apt remove xenstore-utils fix the installation issue.

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                                  fred974 @fred974
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                                  Its seem to be reporting correctly now. Thank you all for your help.
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