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      bikemuch @Danp
      last edited by bikemuch

      @Danp
      First of all thanks for the reply.

      I don't want to complain, as I'm using the software unlicenced, but the fact that CentOS 10, which was released 10 Months ago, is not in in the templates of a freshly deployed xcp-ng/XOA, gives a very bad first impression. It looks like nobody actually cares what is in the VM Templates and what is not.
      If XOA aims at professionals, someone should really fix such small things.

      I managed to install Debian 13 with the Debian 12 template. It is working.

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        Pilow @bikemuch
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        @bikemuch as @Danp said, there is a HUB Template for Debian 13
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          bikemuch @Pilow
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          @Pilow
          Thanks. There is not much there to see.

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            Danp Pro Support Team @bikemuch
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            @bikemuch As mentioned previously, you don't need a CentOS 10 template in order to deploy a VM with this newer version of CentOS. It will work just fine using a template from an earlier version of CentOS.

            There is actually a good bit more available in the hub as seen in the screenshot below. You may need to register the appliance in order to access this feature.b8ece4cd-14d3-4e4e-a17c-c69de55517ba-image.png

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              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Indeed, a bundled template is just the overall settings of the OS (only metadata). There's no difference on the latest 3 versions of CentOS (and like 12 last versions of Ubuntu).

              For the hub access, which contains an installed OS with cloud init, you need to have a registered XOA (even free)

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                cg @bikemuch
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                @bikemuch While you're technically not wrong about the impression, especially Linux distros usually work with flawlessly with the former version template.
                I also saw that there's a user-test running with updated templates including Debian 13 etc.
                It should be GA in about 2 weeks.

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                  bikemuch @cg
                  last edited by bikemuch

                  @cg
                  I'm not questioning that it works. As @olivierlambert said, those templates do not include much and do not change even over multiple major releases.
                  But I really think the major releases should be in the templates, as the missing current OS versions give the impression, that xcp is somewhat lagging behind (lagging behind the competition, that is).
                  In my company we are advised to use RHEL, as we have running support contracts with Red Hat. So releases like RHEL, CentOS, Debian etc. are really important. But you know best, what your customers use...

                  Not sure if I want to register my XOA, as I'm only running 3-5 Linux VMs on one machine. Tried Debian with KVM and cockpit before, but it did not meet my expectations.

                  When there is a future release of xcp, I would be willing to give that a spin too.

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                    cg @bikemuch
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                    @bikemuch I registered an XOA-account to keep a few machines with XOA maintained. It's free, not much to loose.

                    Many of us are looking forward for a 9.0 release, including a modern 5.x or even 6.x kernel, including all the developments and improvements, that have been made.
                    Also things like 16TB+ disks on block storage (incl. thin provisioning) etc.

                    If your company is running a bigger environment: You can put priorities on features as a paying customer. 😉

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                      bikemuch @cg
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                      @cg said in Update Templates:

                      @bikemuch I registered an XOA-account to keep a few machines with XOA maintained. It's free, not much to loose.

                      Ok, I will think about it... but I lean more towards the open source side

                      Many of us are looking forward for a 9.0 release, including a modern 5.x or even 6.x kernel, including all the developments and improvements, that have been made.

                      That would make quite a big difference.

                      Also things like 16TB+ disks on block storage (incl. thin provisioning) etc.

                      Will thin provisioning be the new default?

                      If your company is running a bigger environment: You can put priorities on features as a paying customer. 😉

                      Don't get that wrong. I installed xcp on my personal rig.
                      The company I work for uses converged cloud, but my work is not infrastructure related. I only write automated tests for frontend testing.

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        1. A new kernel version in the Dom0 isn't that much a game changer, despite what many people think, it's not like in KVM, the most important part isn't the Linux kernel but Xen
                        2. Qcow2 format is coming next week in beta and final version will be in 8.3
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                          Greg_E @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert

                          The only thing I can think of from newer kernels is NFS options like nconnect=xx for hopefully more speed in the day to day range of duties. As of the pre-LTS, this still wasn't in 8.3. I haven't checked after LTS.

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