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    • bvitnikB Online
      bvitnik @Cyrille
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      @Cyrille Hi. For what functionality does this plugin require XO? VDI operations are well covered with XAPI alone.

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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        XO is meant to be the "middleware" for you entire XCP-ng infrastructure. Most of our plugins are using the XO API (Terraform, Pulumi…), as it's a single point to connect, regardless the number of pools you have.

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        • bvitnikB Online
          bvitnik @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert That's all fine and understandable but my question is more on the technical side of things... and still not answered πŸ™‚

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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            I'm not sure to get the question then πŸ€” It's not a technical requirement, it's a design decision.

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            • CyrilleC Offline
              Cyrille Vates πŸͺ DevOps Team @bvitnik
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              @bvitnik As Olivier said, it's more of a design decision than a technical requirement. The idea behind using XO is to have a single point of entry, regardless of the number of pools, etc.

              For example, this allows the mapping of Kubernetes regions to Xen Orchestra pools and Kubernetes zones to Xen Orchestra hosts with a single entry point and credentials.

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              • bvitnikB Online
                bvitnik @Cyrille
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                @Cyrille My concern is that you are closing the door for people that do not need (or do not want) XO in their stack. Maybe they are using other ways to manage the stack, possibly custom developed, and XO would just be one more point of failure, another security concern etc.

                From what I can gather, XO effectively acts as an API proxy here, plus as a list of pools. That's a rather insignificant (and forced?) role, from a technical point of view, considering XO has much much more functionality outside of what XCP-ng and XAPI offer themselves. All of that unused and not required for this integration.

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                • CyrilleC Offline
                  Cyrille Vates πŸͺ DevOps Team @bvitnik
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                  Actually, it's not a closed door; it's more a door that is opening for people who are already using both Xen Orchestra and Kubernetes.πŸ€”

                  From a technical point of view, it makes more sense for us to use XO, because its API is easier to use, especially with the new REST API. For the application side itself, it does many thing that we don't have to deal with. For VDIs, perhaps it's not so much. But for other things such as backups, live migrations, templates and VM creation... it's easier. Moreover, using a unique SDK to develop tools makes sense for our small DevOps team in terms of development speed, stability and security.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by olivierlambert

                    Again, XCP-ng and Xen Orchestra are really meant to work together: that’s by design. Our goal is to offer a unified stack with one consistent REST API to manage everything, across any number of pools.

                    XO already handles a ton of things: auth (with oidc, SAML etc.), multi-pool aggregation, RBAC/ACLs, task tracking, templates, backups, live migrations, etc. By building on top of XO, we can focus on adding real value instead of re-implementing all that logic again in any 3rd party program we maintain in full open source and for free.

                    And honestly, I don’t see any issue relying on XO: everything is fully open source, and all features are available for free from the sources, just like it’s always been. Nobody’s forcing you to use one or the other: if you’d rather build directly on XAPI, you absolutely can.

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                    • jmaraJ Offline
                      jmara
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                      Great stuff, looking forward and will try the CSI in the next couple of weeks πŸ™‚

                      @bvitnik There is an old CSI for xcp-ng (5 years old) which directly talks to the Xen-API, but I'd rather have a middleware which as @olivierlambert already stated has ACL's and security build-in.
                      Eventually you will end up in a broken xen cluster because you have a k8s node with cluster wide privileges to the XenAPI.

                      @olivierlambert Is there any loose roadmap for the CSI? πŸ™‚

                      Cheers,
                      Jan

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        The roadmap depends a lot on the feedback we have on it πŸ˜‰ More demand/popular, faster we'll implement stuff πŸ™‚

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                          ThasianXi
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                          My validation of this was not successful; I used the Quick Start PoC.
                          Pods eventually went into CrashLoopBackOff after ErrImagePull and ImagePullBackOff.
                          I created a GitHub token with these permissions: public_repo, read:packages. I also used a token with more permissions (although that was futile) however, I figured at least it required the aforementioned ones.

                          I have since uninstalled via the script but captured the following events from the controller and one of the node pods:

                          kgp -nkube-system | grep csi*
                          
                          csi-xenorchestra-controller-748db9b45b-z26h6             1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   31 (2m31s ago)   77m
                          csi-xenorchestra-node-4jw9z                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   18 (42s ago)     77m
                          csi-xenorchestra-node-7wcld                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   18 (58s ago)     77m
                          csi-xenorchestra-node-8jrlq                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   18 (34s ago)     77m
                          csi-xenorchestra-node-hqwjj                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   18 (50s ago)     77m
                          

                          Pod events:
                          csi-xenorchestra-controller-748db9b45b-z26h6

                          Normal  BackOff  3m48s (x391 over 78m)  kubelet  Back-off pulling image "ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge"
                          

                          csi-xenorchestra-node-4jw9z

                          Normal   BackOff  14m (x314 over 79m)    kubelet  Back-off pulling image "ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge"
                          Warning  BackOff  4m21s (x309 over 78m)  kubelet  Back-off restarting failed container node-driver-registrar in pod csi-xenorchestra-node-4jw9z_kube-system(b533c28b-1f28-488a-a31e-862117461964)
                          

                          I can deploy again and capture more information if needed.

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                          • nathanael-hN Offline
                            nathanael-h Vates πŸͺ DevOps Team @ThasianXi
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                            @ThasianXi Hello, thanks for the report. It looks like the pull image step fails. Can you test that the token generated from Github is working and allows to pull the image.

                            Maybe a simple test on a docker install could ease the verification:

                            docker login ghcr.io -u USERNAME -p TOKEN
                            docker pull ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:v0.0.1
                            

                            Also note that only "Classic" persona access token are supported.

                            More doc here https://docs.github.com/en/packages/working-with-a-github-packages-registry/working-with-the-container-registry#authenticating-with-a-personal-access-token-classic

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                              ThasianXi @nathanael-h
                              last edited by ThasianXi

                              @nathanael-h
                              🏁 The image pull was successful to my local computer using the same classic personal access token I generated and set as the regcred secret.
                              2602_ghcr_xocsi.png


                              πŸ’‘
                              Looking at the documentation again and since I am not using MicroK8s, I tried something different but the result was the same. (the pods never transitioned to a running state).

                              This time, prior to executing the install script, I updated the kubelet-registration-path and the volume path in the csi-xenorchestra-node-single.yaml and csi-xenorchestra-node.yaml files.
                              (I believe this would be an opportunity to update the README for clarity on what to update based on the Kubernetes platform i.e. MicroK8s vs non-MicroK8s -- I can submit a PR for this, if you like)
                              excerpts:

                               - --kubelet-registration-path=/var/lib/kubelet/plugins/csi.xenorchestra.vates.tech/csi.sock
                               #- --kubelet-registration-path=/var/snap/microk8s/common/var/lib/kubelet/plugins/csi.xenorchestra.vates.tech/csi.sock
                              -------------------------
                               volumes:
                                      - hostPath:
                                          path: /var/lib/kubelet/plugins/csi.xenorchestra.vates.tech
                                          type: DirectoryOrCreate
                                        name: socket-dir
                              

                              On the control-plane:

                              [root@xxxx kubelet]# pwd
                              /var/lib/kubelet
                              [root@xxxx  kubelet]# tree plugins
                              plugins
                              └── csi.xenorchestra.vates.tech
                              
                               kgp -nkube-system | grep csi
                              csi-xenorchestra-controller-748db9b45b-w4zk4             2/3     ImagePullBackOff   19 (12s ago)     41m
                              csi-xenorchestra-node-6zzv8                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   11 (3m51s ago)   41m
                              csi-xenorchestra-node-8r4ml                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   11 (3m59s ago)   41m
                              csi-xenorchestra-node-btrsb                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   11 (4m11s ago)   41m
                              csi-xenorchestra-node-w69pc                              1/3     CrashLoopBackOff   11 (4m3s ago)    41m
                              

                              Excerpt from /var/log/messages:

                              Feb 18 22:21:44 xxx kubelet[50541]: I0218 22:21:44.474317   50541 scope.go:117] "RemoveContainer" containerID="26d29856a551fe7dfd873a3f8124584d400d1a88d77cdb4c1797a9726fa85408"
                              Feb 18 22:21:44 xxx crio[734]: time="2026-02-18 22:21:44.475900036-05:00" level=info msg="Checking image status: ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge" id=308f8922-453b-481f-804d-3d85b489b933 name=/runtime.v1.ImageService/ImageStatus
                              Feb 18 22:21:44 xxx crio[734]: time="2026-02-18 22:21:44.476149865-05:00" level=info msg="Image ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge not found" id=308f8922-453b-481f-804d-3d85b489b933 name=/runtime.v1.ImageService/ImageStatus
                              Feb 18 22:21:44 xxx crio[734]: time="2026-02-18 22:21:44.476188202-05:00" level=info msg="Image ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge not found" id=308f8922-453b-481f-804d-3d85b489b933 name=/runtime.v1.ImageService/ImageStatus
                              Feb 18 22:21:44 xxx kubelet[50541]: E0218 22:21:44.476862   50541 pod_workers.go:1298] "Error syncing pod, skipping" err="[failed to \"StartContainer\" for \"node-driver-registrar\" with CrashLoopBackOff: \"back-off 5m0s restarting failed container=node-driver-registrar pod=csi-xenorchestra-node-btrsb_kube-system(433e69c9-2da9-4e23-b92b-90918bd36248)\", failed to \"StartContainer\" for \"xenorchestra-csi-driver\" with ImagePullBackOff: \"Back-off pulling image \\\"ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge\\\"\"]" pod="kube-system/csi-xenorchestra-node-btrsb" podUID="433e69c9-2da9-4e23-b92b-90918bd36248"
                              

                              Any other suggestions in the meantime or if I can collect more information, let me know.

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                              • jmaraJ Offline
                                jmara @nathanael-h
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                                @nathanael-h There should be no need to use an access token, because:
                                a) the personal account does not have access to the vates repo and can therefor not grant any privileges
                                b) is xenorchestra-csi-driver a public repo and all assets are public available

                                The only valid point can be rate limits but as this test setup usually does not invoke a massive load of docker pulls it should be neglectable.

                                @thasianxi
                                It looks like a mixup, the Repo / Deployment refers to the github repository name as docker image which is usually the case. Unfortunatly the packages (which are created have a different name) can you replace ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge with ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:edge in the manifest and retry?

                                Cheers
                                Jan M.

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                                  ThasianXi @jmara
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                                  @jmara Thank you for the input. All pods are running with caveats. ⚠

                                  Prior to executing the installation, I updated the image name to ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:edge in the manifests.
                                  After executing the install, I had to manually edit the image name in the DaemonSet, from ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge to ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:edge.
                                  After editing the DaemonSet, the node pods restarted and transitioned to running.

                                  However, the controller pod was still attempting to pull this image: ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge and never transitioned to running.
                                  To correct that, I edited the image name in the Deployment, from ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge to ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:edge.

                                  Thus after editing the DaemonSet and Deployment, the pods transitioned to running. β›³

                                  kgp -nkube-system | grep csi*
                                  csi-xenorchestra-controller-b5b695fb-ts4b9               3/3     Running   0          4m8s
                                  csi-xenorchestra-node-27qzg                              3/3     Running   0          6m21s
                                  csi-xenorchestra-node-4bflf                              3/3     Running   0          6m20s
                                  csi-xenorchestra-node-8tb5m                              3/3     Running   0          6m20s
                                  csi-xenorchestra-node-t9m78                              3/3     Running   0          6m20s
                                  
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                                    ThasianXi
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                                    🏁 Just a follow-up that the PV and PVC creation was successful.
                                    All pods stable since previous post. βœ”

                                    k get pv
                                    NAME              CAPACITY   ACCESS MODES   RECLAIM POLICY   STATUS      CLAIM                        STORAGECLASS          VOLUMEATTRIBUTESCLASS   REASON   AGE
                                    dtw-6m            2Gi        RWO            Retain           Bound       kube-system/xo-csi-test      csi-xenorchestra-sc   <unset>                          10h
                                    
                                    
                                    k get pvc -nkube-system
                                    NAME          STATUS   VOLUME   CAPACITY   ACCESS MODES   STORAGECLASS          VOLUMEATTRIBUTESCLASS   AGE
                                    xo-csi-test   Bound    dtw-6m   2Gi        RWO            csi-xenorchestra-sc   <unset>                 9h
                                    
                                    kgp -nkube-system | grep csi*
                                    csi-xenorchestra-controller-b5b695fb-ts4b9               3/3     Running   0          43h
                                    csi-xenorchestra-node-27qzg                              3/3     Running   0          43h
                                    csi-xenorchestra-node-4bflf                              3/3     Running   0          43h
                                    csi-xenorchestra-node-8tb5m                              3/3     Running   0          43h
                                    csi-xenorchestra-node-t9m78                              3/3     Running   0          43h
                                    
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                                    • CyrilleC Offline
                                      Cyrille Vates πŸͺ DevOps Team @ThasianXi
                                      last edited by Cyrille

                                      Hi,

                                      Thank you for the feedback πŸ˜‰

                                      There was an error in the Makefile used to build the Docker image for the CSI. The name was incorrect... The fix that we pushed a month ago didn't trigger the CI πŸ˜“

                                      I manually ran the CI to rebuild the edge image with the correct name, which is now available at ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi-driver:edge

                                      I delete the wrong one (ghcr.io/vatesfr/xenorchestra-csi:edge).

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                                        jmara @Cyrille
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                                        @Cyrille πŸ‘

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