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    backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?

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      Pilow @MajorP93
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      @MajorP93 here are some screenshots of my XOA RAM
      648fbf59-9143-4517-892c-6ba9a5fdb5e1-{CC6A2183-CEF2-4139-8792-5E5BF5457BE3}.png
      (lost before sunday stats since I crashed my host in RPU this weekend...)
      ecb141c6-fce7-4571-9f3c-9b138ca9c35c-{3A43A1DB-C18B-4787-8791-95FB4E0C6531}.png
      you can clearly see RAM crawling and beeing dumped each reboot.

      here is one of my XOA Proxies (4 in total, they totally offload backups from my main XOA)
      490f8a00-67db-4aeb-aa61-6eb3b8c7b570-{59EFE2AB-72B7-43E6-B89A-BCED3EA399F2}.png

      there is also a slope of RAM crawling up... little spikes are overhead when backups are ongoing.

      I started to reboot XOA+all 4 proxxies every morning.

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        florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Pilow
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        @Pilow We pushed a lot of memory fixes to master, would it be possible to test it ?

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          Pilow @florent
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          @florent said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

          @Pilow We pushed a lot of memory fixes to master, would it be possible to test it ?

          how so ? I stop my reboot everyday task and check if RAM is still crawling to 8Gb ?

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            Pilow @Pilow
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            memory problems arise on our XOA

            we have a spare XO CE deployed by ronivay script on ubuntu VM that we use only as a spare when main XOA is upgrading/rebooting
            same pools/hosts attached, quite a read only XO

            totally different behavior
            931533b5-c282-4810-bfe6-036240c58380-{D12F53BA-EB8D-4A61-AF1E-A70AABA612DC}.png

            48234a45-a3d5-4438-aa88-f1243944a3de-{9B6F2DA5-92A8-4706-99D7-A4CD05237980}.png

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              MajorP93 @Pilow
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              @Pilow Which Node JS version does your XO CE instance use?

              Could you possibly also check what Node JS version your XOA uses?

              As discussed in this thread maybe there are some RAM management differences when comparing XO on different Node JS versions.

              I would also be a big fan of Vates recommending (in documentation) XO CE users to use the exact same Node JS version as XOA uses... I feel like that would streamline things. Otherwise it feels like us XO CE users are "beta testers".

              //EDIT: @pilow also maybe the totally different RAM usage seen in your screenshots might be related to the XO CE not doing any backup jobs? You mentioned that you use XO CE purely as a read-only fallback instance. During my personal tests it looked like the RAM hogging is related to backup jobs and RAM is not being freed after backups finished.

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                Pilow @john.c
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                @john.c said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

                Are you using NodeJS 22 or 24 for your instance of XO?

                here is the node version on our problematic XOA
                6461d193-4f79-4300-9071-724b51caffd8-image.png
                this XOA do NOT manage backup jobs, totally offloaded to XO PROXIES

                XOA PROXies :

                [06:18 04] xoa@XOA-PROXY01:~$ node -v
                v20.18.3
                

                and XO CE :

                root@fallback-XOA:~# node -v
                v24.13.0
                
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                  MajorP93
                  last edited by MajorP93

                  7ec89d01-64e4-47c6-a800-e4de50a56e38-grafik.png

                  This is the RAM usage of my XO CE instance (Debian 13, Node 24, XO commit fa110ed9c92acf03447f5ee3f309ef6861a4a0d4 / "feat: release 6.1.0")

                  Metrics are exported via XO openmetrics plugin.

                  At the spots in the graph where my XO CE instance used around 2GB of RAM it was freshly restarted.
                  Between 31.01. and 03.02. you can see the RAM usage climbing and climbing until my backup jobs went into "interrupted" status on 03.02. due to Node JS heap issue as described in my error report in post https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/102160.

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                    MajorP93
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                    I deployed XOA and used it to create a list of all XO dependencies and their respective versions as this seems to be the baseline that Vates tests against.

                    I then went ahead and re-deployed my XO CE VM using the exact same package versions that XOA uses.

                    This resulted in me using Debian 12, kernel 6.1, Node 20, etc.

                    I hope that this gives my backup jobs more stability.

                    It would be convenient if we would be able to get this information (validated, stable dependencies) from documentation instead of having to deploy XOA.

                    Best regards

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                      olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                      That's precisely the value of XOA and why we are selling it. If you want best tested/stability, XOA is the way to go πŸ™‚

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                        MajorP93 @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert Sure, I absolutely get that XO CE comes with absolutely no warranty and XOA is the supported, enterprise grade product.
                        If the budget was there and if I was to decide on that I would be happy to use it.

                        It might still be a good idea to update your documentation at https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/installation#packages-and-prerequisites to at least align it with the Node JS version that you actually use and test against internally.
                        (The linked part of documentation advises to use Node 24 while you are shipping Node 20 in XOA.)

                        During testing it looked like running XO on Node 20 behaves quite differently compared to running it on Node 24 when it comes to RAM management. It looks like this got also confirmed by other users in this thread.

                        XO CE users actually using and testing the versions that you ship might be of value for finding bugs.
                        I think the documentation should generally advise to use the packages that you target during development in order to make the experience as good as possible for everyone.

                        Just my two cents.

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