XCP-ng
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Delta backup fails for specific vm with VDI chain error

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Xen Orchestra
    79 Posts 5 Posters 10.6k Views 3 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      Sounds like the chain is fucked up in a way I never saw. But I'm not sure about what we see and what it's doing.

      Ideally, can you reproduce this bug on a file level SR?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • M Offline
        mbt
        last edited by mbt

        Hm.. I could move all vms on one host and add a couple of sas disks to the other, set up a file level sr and see how that's behaving. I just don't think I'll get it done this week.

        P.S.: 16f83ba3 shows up only once in xapi-explore-sr, but twice in xapi-explore-sr --full

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • M Offline
          mbt
          last edited by mbt

          FYI, in the meantime the copy has finished, XO deleted the snapshot and now we're back at the start again:

          rigel: sr (rigel) 2019-08-28 13-29-18.png

          xapi-explore-sr (--full doesn't work at the moment wit "maximum call stack size exceeded" error):

          ā”œā”€ā”¬ customer server 2017 0 - 43454904-e56b-4375-b2fb-40691ab28e12 - 500.95 Gi
          │ └─┬ customer server 2017 0 - 57b0bec0-7491-472b-b9fe-e3a66d48e1b0 - 0.2 Gi
          │   └── customer server 2017 0 - 7ef76d55-683d-430f-91e6-39e5cceb9ec1 - 500.98 Gi
          

          P.S.:

          Whilst migrating:

          Aug 28 13:45:33 rigel SMGC: [5663] No work, exiting
          Aug 28 13:45:33 rigel SMGC: [5663] GC process exiting, no work left
          Aug 28 13:45:33 rigel SMGC: [5663] SR f951 ('rigel: sr') (25 VDIs in 9 VHD trees): no changes
          

          So, yeah, foobar šŸ˜‰

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • M Offline
            mbt
            last edited by mbt

            Migrated the vm to the other host, waited and watched the logs, etc.
            The behaviour stays the same. It's constantly coalescing but never gets to an end. Depth in the advanced tab stays at 2.

            So I guess the next step will be to setup an additional ext3 sr.

            P.S.:

            You said "file level sr". So I could also use NFS, right?
            Setting up NFS on the 10GE SSD NAS would indeed be easier than adding drives to a host...

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • AnonabharA Offline
              Anonabhar
              last edited by

              mbt,

              That is the weirdest thing I have seen (and I think i hold the record of causing storage related problems 8-) ).

              Look, I know this is going to sound weird, but try making a copy of the VM not by using the "copy" function. Create a disaster recovery backup job to copy the VM. The reason why I am suggesting this is because the it appears that XO creates a "stream" and effectively exports and imports the VM at the same time. I believe the copy function is handled very differently in XAPI. This should break all association between the old "borked" VDI and the new.

              I would be really interested to see if that fixes the problem for you

              ~Peg

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • M Offline
                mbt
                last edited by

                Hi Peg,

                believe me, I'd rather not be after your record šŸ˜‰

                Disaster recovery does not work for this vm: "Job canceled to protect the VDI chain"
                My guess: as long as XO checks the VDI chain for potential problems before each VM's backup, no backup-ng mechanism will backup this vm.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  We have an option to force it, but this is a protection and that just display in plain sight your issue with this SR.

                  I still don't know the root cause, I think it will be hard to know more without accessing the host myself remotely and do a lot of digging.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • M Offline
                    mbt
                    last edited by

                    I now have migrated the VM's disk to NFS.

                    xapi-explore-sr looks like this (--full not working most of the time):

                    NASa-sr (3 VDIs)
                    └─┬ customer server 2017 0 - 6d1b49d2-51e1-4ad4-9a3b-95012e356aa3 - 500.94 Gi
                      └─┬ customer server 2017 0 - f2def08c-cf2e-4a85-bed8-f90bd11dd585 - 43.05 Gi
                        └── customer server 2017 0 - 9ad7e1c4-b7cb-4a1b-bb74-6395444da2b7 - 43.04 Gi
                    

                    NASa-sr (kirchhoff) 2019-08-29 14-12-45.png

                    On the NFS it looks like this:
                    NASa 2019-08-29 14-18-47.png

                    I'll wait a second for a coalesce job that is currently in progress...

                    OK, the job has finished. No VDIs to coalesce in the advanced tab.
                    NFS looks like this:

                    NASa 2019-08-29 14-20-44.png

                    xapi-explore-sr --full says:

                    NASa-sr (1 VDIs)
                    └── Customer server 2017 0 - 9ad7e1c4-b7cb-4a1b-bb74-6395444da2b7 - 43.04 Gi
                    
                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      So coalesce is working as expected on the NFS SR. For some reason, your original LVM SR can't make a proper coalesce.

                      _danielgurgel_ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • M Offline
                        mbt
                        last edited by

                        But only for this vm, all the others are running (and backupping) fine.
                        How are my chances that coalesce will work fine again if I migrate the disk back to local lvm sr?

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          Try again now you got a clean chain šŸ™‚

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • _danielgurgel_ Offline
                            _danielgurgel @olivierlambert
                            last edited by _danielgurgel

                            @olivierlambert Could this patch be the solution?
                            It would validate if this would really fix the problem.

                            [XSO-887](https://bugs.xenserver.org/browse/XSO-887?focusedCommentId=17173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel)
                            
                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                              last edited by

                              This patch then:

                              --- /opt/xensource/sm/cleanup.py.orig   2018-08-17 17:19:16.947351689 +0200
                              +++ /opt/xensource/sm/cleanup.py        2018-10-05 09:30:15.689685864 +0200
                              @@ -1173,16 +1173,24 @@
                               
                                   def _doCoalesce(self):
                                       """LVHD parents must first be activated, inflated, and made writable"""
                              +        self.sr.lock()
                              +        acquired = True
                                       try:
                                           self._activateChain()
                                           self.sr.lvmCache.setReadonly(self.parent.fileName, False)
                                           self.parent.validate()
                              +            self.sr.unlock()
                              +            acquired = False
                                           self.inflateParentForCoalesce()
                                           VDI._doCoalesce(self)
                                       finally:
                              +            if acquired:
                              +                self.sr.unlock()
                                           self.parent._loadInfoSizeVHD()
                                           self.parent.deflate()
                              +            self.sr.lock()
                                           self.sr.lvmCache.setReadonly(self.parent.fileName, True)
                              +            self.sr.unlock()
                               
                                   def _setParent(self, parent):
                                       self._activate()
                              @@ -1724,33 +1732,41 @@
                                           # need to finish relinking and/or refreshing the children
                                           Util.log("==> Coalesce apparently already done: skipping")
                                       else:
                              -            # JRN_COALESCE is used to check which VDI is being coalesced in 
                              -            # order to decide whether to abort the coalesce. We remove the 
                              -            # journal as soon as the VHD coalesce step is done, because we 
                              -            # don't expect the rest of the process to take long
                              -            self.journaler.create(vdi.JRN_COALESCE, vdi.uuid, "1")
                              -            vdi._doCoalesce()
                              -            self.journaler.remove(vdi.JRN_COALESCE, vdi.uuid)
                              +            self.lock()
                              +            try:
                              +                # JRN_COALESCE is used to check which VDI is being coalesced in 
                              +                # order to decide whether to abort the coalesce. We remove the 
                              +                # journal as soon as the VHD coalesce step is done, because we 
                              +                # don't expect the rest of the process to take long
                              +                self.journaler.create(vdi.JRN_COALESCE, vdi.uuid, "1")
                              +            finally:
                              +                self.unlock()
                               
                              -            util.fistpoint.activate("LVHDRT_before_create_relink_journal",self.uuid)
                              +            vdi._doCoalesce()
                               
                              -            # we now need to relink the children: lock the SR to prevent ops 
                              -            # like SM.clone from manipulating the VDIs we'll be relinking and 
                              -            # rescan the SR first in case the children changed since the last 
                              -            # scan
                              -            self.journaler.create(vdi.JRN_RELINK, vdi.uuid, "1")
                              +            self.lock()
                              +            try:
                              +                self.journaler.remove(vdi.JRN_COALESCE, vdi.uuid)
                              +                util.fistpoint.activate("LVHDRT_before_create_relink_journal",self.uuid)
                              +                # we now need to relink the children: lock the SR to prevent ops 
                              +                # like SM.clone from manipulating the VDIs we'll be relinking and 
                              +                # rescan the SR first in case the children changed since the last 
                              +                # scan
                              +                self.journaler.create(vdi.JRN_RELINK, vdi.uuid, "1")
                              +            finally:
                              +                self.unlock()
                               
                                       self.lock()
                                       try:
                                           self.scan()
                                           vdi._relinkSkip()
                              +
                              +            vdi.parent._reloadChildren(vdi)
                              +            self.journaler.remove(vdi.JRN_RELINK, vdi.uuid)
                              +            self.deleteVDI(vdi)
                                       finally:
                                           self.unlock()
                               
                              -        vdi.parent._reloadChildren(vdi)
                              -        self.journaler.remove(vdi.JRN_RELINK, vdi.uuid)
                              -        self.deleteVDI(vdi)
                              -
                                   def _coalesceLeaf(self, vdi):
                                       """Leaf-coalesce VDI vdi. Return true if we succeed, false if we cannot
                                       complete due to external changes, namely vdi_delete and vdi_snapshot
                              

                              Well, I haven't read it in details, you can try to see if it's easy to apply and then restart toolstack.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • M Offline
                                mbt
                                last edited by

                                I migrated the disk back to the local lvm sr.

                                Guess what...

                                rigel: sr (rigel) 2019-08-29 16-21-15.png

                                rigel: sr (25 VDIs)
                                ā”œā”€ā”¬ customer server 2017 0 - 972ef16c-8d47-43f9-866e-138a6a7693a8 - 500.98 Gi
                                │ └─┬ customer server 2017 0 - 4e61f49f-6598-4ef8-8ffa-e496f2532d0f - 0.33 Gi
                                │   └── customer server 2017 0 - 66ab0cf5-ff10-4a3d-9f87-62b1e7be7f91 - 500.98 Gi
                                
                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                  last edited by

                                  Are you able to delete/recreate this SR?

                                  M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • M Offline
                                    mbt @olivierlambert
                                    last edited by mbt

                                    @olivierlambert Do you think both hosts' sr could suffer from the same bug?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • M Offline
                                      mbt
                                      last edited by

                                      I did a vm copy today (to have at least some sort of current backup) and while it was copying I was able to also run the delta backup job. Afterwards I found a vdi coalesce chain of 1 and when I checked after a while there were no coalesce jobs queued.
                                      At this moment the weekly full backup job is running, so I expect to have some "regular" backups of the vm today and will monitor what happens on the coalescing side. I'm not getting my hopes too high, though šŸ˜‰

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • M Offline
                                        mbt
                                        last edited by

                                        After the backups were done, I saw the usual problem, but this time the system was able to correctly coalesce it seems. The nightly delta backup finished okay and until now the problem hasn't reappeared.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by

                                          @mbt so what changed since the situation in your initial problem?

                                          M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • M Offline
                                            mbt @olivierlambert
                                            last edited by

                                            @olivierlambert said in Delta backup fails for specific vm with VDI chain error:

                                            @mbt so what changed since the situation in your initial problem?

                                            Nothing. No system reboot, no patch installations, no hardware reconfiguration, no XCP-ng server reconfoguration, ..

                                            I just

                                            • triggered the vm full copy in xo to the other host
                                            • while the data was transferrred coalescing of the vm picked up until there were no outstanding jobs
                                            • while the full backup was still running I started a backup-ng full backup job for the vm which worked
                                            • I also manually started the delta backup job which also worked
                                            • afterwards there was a short period of time where there were outstanding coalesce jobs for the dvi (depth 2) and I thought "here we go again.."
                                            • but the system got it done and now everything seems to be okay for the moment.

                                            I wish I had an explanation.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post