HUB Templates

  • Hi, sorry if I missed something obvious. With the latest update i can now see the Hub tab in the UI however there are no templates available there. What can I do to be able to access the templates?

  • XCP-ng Team

    Are you using XOA or XO from the sources?

    Templates are available if you have a registered XOA (even XOA Free)

  • Thank you @olivierlambert
    Is it possible to register a community version? I cant seem to find a way to do this anywhere?

  • Just to clarify, in Community Version all registration options are greyed out for me. Am i doing something wrong?

  • @Pechkin000 AFAIK, the registration options are not intended to working in the Community version. Thus, these controls are disabled.

    The new Hub feature appears to utilize the Cloud plugin, which also isn't intended to work in the Community version. Therefore, it looks like this new feature is only available in XOA.

  • Looks like more and more features are moving towards paid XOA only and not enabled in the community edition. XOSAN, Cloud Plug-in, and HUB templates for example.

    I wonder if the Netdata plugin will be added to this list when it’s released as well.

  • Can't blame them for trying to pay the bills. ☺

    However, if the Hub feature is going to be available in XOA Free then it would make sense to include it in the Community version as well.

  • XCP-ng Team

    @Biggen said in HUB Templates:

    Nothing has "moved to being paid", all the things you list started as paid only features in XOA - Cloud-init did have a bug where it would be able to be used in lesser license levels, but this was accidental - you can check our commit history on the documentation for it, we intended it to be a premium only feature. What I mean to say is if a feature is going to be paid we make that clear from the get go, we do not release a feature/product for free and then change that later. It's for this reason you do not need to worry about the netdata plugin changing to paid only. It's also worth noting we publish the source code for all the aforementioned paid features - I know there's at least a couple people out there using our XOSAN glusterfs driver in their own (free) projects

    I do understand the frustration with some things only being in paid products, but we have to find a balance of being able to pay the bills so our developers can keep xcp-ng going and release stuff like new plugins

  • XCP-ng Team

    It's even simpler than that: XOA Hub is a service we added, with templates we are hosting.

    All the code is Open Source, but the templates are made and hosted by us. This is a free service we offer for people using Xen Orchestra virtual Appliance (XOA). If you want to use it, then use XOA 🙂

    Regarding Cloudinit, we decided to also offer this feature to all XOA users (including free).

    In short, we are raising value of XOA with extra services, and all the code we do is still fully Open Source. It means you can create your own templates with cloud init (as before) if you use XO from the sources. Only "turnkey" templates we build/provide/deliver are for XOA.

    I hope it's more clear for everyone now 🙂

  • @fohdeesha What I meant by the phrase “Moved to being paid” was that after they were designed, they were moved to the pay model. They were never part of the community version.

    Is the community version frozen as far as new features go? Are we just talking about bug fixes at this point?

  • XCP-ng Team

    Cloudinit was always accessible from the sources. In XOA, it was only officially available in Premium until yesterday (now it's in all XOA plans, even Free).

  • Thank you for clarifying. Just didn't want to bang my head against the wall trying to make it work if its not there in a first place.

  • I just installed the XOA appliance through the webpage of the server, entered my registration (free), and updated to 5.38 (no newer updates available).
    I also do not see the "Hub" tab.
    Is there something I do wrong?

  • @HeMaN Try refreshing the page. If that doesn't work, then reboot the VM.

  • XCP-ng Team

    You need to be on latest release channel, not stable.

  • @olivierlambert Thank you, this was the solution.
    I was able to create an additional pfSense VM and a Debian 10 VM.
    One question, how do I know the username/pw for the installed Debian VM?

  • XCP-ng Team

    @HeMaN you need to use Cloudinit for Debian VM, using you SSH key for example. User is debian.

  • I can't install any of the templates. I think it's a proxy problem. My XOA gets updates fine through the proxy, but not the templates, it seems.

  • XCP-ng Team

    Are you sure about your DNS settings? Ping @julien-f if he remembers regarding proxy configuration and XO Hub 🙂 It might be something we didn't check.

  • XO Team

    This is a XenServer/XCP-ng error, I don't know what it means.

    @S-Pam please open a support ticket and a support tunnel if you want us to investigate further.

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