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    • olivierlambertO Online
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      That's by definition why are they called "orphaned" 🙂 The question is: have you decided to disconnect some VDI of some VM by yourself or they just are here because they are leftover of some failed operations?

      I think that in your case, you can remove them all.

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        robert wild
        last edited by

        thanks Olivier because when i change the magnifying glass to "type:!VDI-unmanaged" i see under the VMs the actual live vm name and the backup vm so i think its safe to delete all the orphaned ones

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        • olivierlambertO Online
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          Yes, VDIs connected to a VM are by definition not orphaned. You don't want to remove those.

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            robert wild
            last edited by

            just out of interest when i change the magnifying glass to "type:VDI-unmanaged"

            it lists "base copy"

            what are they?

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            • olivierlambertO Online
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              They are the read only parent of a disk (when you do a snapshot, in fact it creates 3 disks: the base copy in read only, the new active disk and the snapshot).

              If you remove the snapshot, then a coalesce will appear, to merge the active disk within the base copy, and get back to the initial state: 1 disk only.

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                robert wild
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                so can i delete the "type:VDI-snapshot"

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                  robert wild
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                  • olivierlambertO Online
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    1. Please edit your post and use Markdown syntax for code/error blocks
                    2. Rescan your SR and try again, at worst remove everything you can, leave it a while to coalesce and wait before trying to remove it again
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                      robert wild
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                      vdi.delete
                      {
                      "id": "1778c579-65a5-48b3-82df-9558a4f6ff7f"
                      }
                      {
                      "code": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                      "params": [
                      "",
                      "",
                      ""
                      ],
                      "task": {
                      "uuid": "3c72bd9a-36ec-01da-b1b5-0b19468f4532",
                      "name_label": "Async.VDI.destroy",
                      "name_description": "",
                      "allowed_operations": [],
                      "current_operations": {},
                      "created": "20200120T19:23:41Z",
                      "finished": "20200120T19:23:50Z",
                      "status": "failure",
                      "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8",
                      "progress": 1,
                      "type": "<none/>",
                      "result": "",
                      "error_info": [
                      "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                      "",
                      "",
                      ""
                      ],
                      "other_config": {},
                      "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL",
                      "subtasks": [],
                      "backtrace": "(((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/backtrace.ml)(line 210))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/storage_access.ml)(line 31))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/xapi_vdi.ml)(line 683))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 100))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 236))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 83)))"
                      },
                      "message": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )",
                      "name": "XapiError",
                      "stack": "XapiError: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )
                      at Function.wrap (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_XapiError.js:16:11)
                      at _default (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_getTaskResult.js:11:28)
                      at Xapi._addRecordToCache (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:812:37)
                      at events.forEach.event (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:833:13)
                      at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                      at Xapi._processEvents (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:823:11)
                      at /xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:984:13
                      at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
                      at asyncGeneratorStep (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:58:103)
                      at _next (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:60:194)
                      at tryCatcher (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)
                      at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)
                      at Promise._settlePromise (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)
                      at Promise._settlePromise0 (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)
                      at Promise._settlePromises (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:729:18)
                      at _drainQueueStep (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)
                      at _drainQueue (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)
                      at Async._drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)
                      at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)
                      at runCallback (timers.js:810:20)
                      at tryOnImmediate (timers.js:768:5)
                      at processImmediate [as _immediateCallback] (timers.js:745:5)"
                      }
                      
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                        robert wild
                        last edited by robert wild

                        got the command

                        xe vm-disk-list vm=(name or UUID)

                        im going to cross refernce it with this

                        xe vdi-list sr-uuid=$sr_uuid params=uuid managed=true

                        and any vdis that dont match im going to delete with

                        xe vdi-destroy

                        is this corect?

                        mmm... when i run a

                        xe vdi-list

                        i see i have a lot of base copies

                        what are they all about?

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                          robert wild
                          last edited by

                          ok Olivier

                          as XOA isnt working can i do it from the cli of xen, so -

                          xe vdi-destroy uuid=(uuid of orphaned vdi )

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                          • olivierlambertO Online
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                            last edited by

                            It's not XOA that's not working. XO is the client, sending commands to the host. You had a pretty clear error coming from the host, so the issue is there.

                            Also, please edit your post and use Markdown syntax please, otherwise it's hard to read.

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                              robert wild
                              last edited by

                              Hi Olivier, do i need to do this -

                              https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX214523

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                              • olivierlambertO Online
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                last edited by

                                Why? How it's related? Have you cleaned the maximum number of VDIs?

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                                  robert wild
                                  last edited by

                                  no...how do i do that Olivier

                                  do you mean delete the orphan ones?

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                                  • olivierlambertO Online
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes, removing all possible orphaned VDIs

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                                      robert wild
                                      last edited by

                                      mmm... not looking good, got a problem with my backend SR...

                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 orphaned vdis
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Found 2 VDIs for deletion:
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577]   *98b10e9d[VHD](50.000G//9.445G|n)
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SMGC: [6577] Deleting unlinked VDI *4c5de6b9[VHD](20.000G//192.000M|ao)
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] lock: tried lock /var/lock/sm/0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/sr, acquired: True (exists: True)
                                      Jan 21 08:57:16 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #0
                                      Jan 21 08:57:21 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:24 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9438] sr_scan {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|26c1154f-1c31-4ff7-8455-7899be8018d9|SR.scan', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:a5cdddcc-1b39-4fe7-8de0-457e40783795', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_scan', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                      Jan 21 08:57:25 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [9464] sr_update {'sr_uuid': 'e4497404-baa7-c26f-49b1-266fd1f89e5f', 'subtask_of': 'DummyRef:|d6f3febc-c434-446f-b152-8b226d935e8c|SR.stat', 'args': [], 'host_ref': 'OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8', 'session_ref': 'OpaqueRef:6355efbb-370e-4192-b69b-d7e529058db9', 'device_config': {'username': 'robert.wild.admin', 'vers': '3.0', 'cifspassword_secret': '8a5270fc-72ca-59aa-a71e-c8cd9dc91750', 'iso_path': '/engineering/xen/iso', 'location': '//10.110.130.101/mmfs1', 'type': 'cifs', 'SRmaster': 'true'}, 'command': 'sr_update', 'sr_ref': 'OpaqueRef:88f40308-1653-4d3e-906b-c85de994844d'}
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #1
                                      Jan 21 08:57:26 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #2
                                      Jan 21 08:57:31 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #3
                                      Jan 21 08:57:36 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #4
                                      Jan 21 08:57:41 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] '
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] *** lvremove failed on attempt #5
                                      Jan 21 08:57:45 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] ['/sbin/lvremove', '-f', '/dev/VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653']
                                      Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577] FAILED in util.pread: (rc 5) stdout: '', stderr: '  /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
                                      Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
                                      Jan 21 08:57:50 lon-p-xenserver01 SM: [6577]   Logical volume VG_XenStorage-0f956522-42d7-5328-a5ec-a7fd406ca0f3/VHD-4c5de6b9-ae97-4a15-ad76-84a49c397653 in use.
                                      
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                                        robert wild
                                        last edited by

                                        great, seems a bug in XS 7.6 and im running it LOL

                                        https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/104

                                        jaroslaw-freus created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                                        closed XCP-ng 7.6 /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed #104

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                                          stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @robert wild
                                          last edited by

                                          @robert-wild I'm not sure about that. See this comment https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/104#issuecomment-449381556

                                          jaroslaw-freus created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                                          closed XCP-ng 7.6 /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed #104

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                                            robert wild
                                            last edited by

                                            so i know my continous backup replicas arnt happening because it cant do a coalesce any of my VDI's

                                            WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad

                                            so if i run this command in my xen server 7.6

                                            vgchange -a y --config global{metadata_read_only=0}

                                            the next time my xen server does an auto coalesce any of my VDI's, will it become good again?

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