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    Alert: Control Domain Memory Usage

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    • stormiS Offline
      stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
      last edited by

      Thanks, this is good to have confirmation of what we thought about CH 8.2 but couldn't prove!

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        fasterfourier @stormi
        last edited by

        @stormi I've just opened a Citrix case on the issue, but I wouldn't expect much help there, and definitely wouldn't expect anything quickly.

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          stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @fasterfourier
          last edited by

          @fasterfourier Well, we've also tried to make the issue known to Citrix before so maybe your confirmation that it does not only happen in XCP-ng will be enough to trigger some movement about it. A memory leak that makes the host unusable is not a small issue.

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            fasterfourier @stormi
            last edited by fasterfourier

            @stormi The ID for the case I just opened is 80240347. If you have a bugtracker issue open, you may want to mention that ticket. I just now opened the ticket, though, so it will be a while before it makes its way out of tier 1, etc.

            EDIT: Had the wrong case number at first. Updated case number.

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            • borzelB Offline
              borzel XCP-ng Center Team
              last edited by borzel

              We also have an issue with growing control domain memory:

              • XCP-ng 8.2
              • NFS shared storage
              • the poolmaster (xen19 is one of them) are more affected than pool members

              d1fac6d1-997b-4a7c-898c-d4a9c398b566-grafik.png

              Today I install the alternate kernel on one of our poolmaster to see if that resolves our issue.

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              • borzelB Offline
                borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                last edited by

                I noticed in my monitoring graphs, that since we have this issue, the SWAP is not used like before the issue:

                b07111c8-7c21-4351-85fa-2acc7030bb2d-grafik.png

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                • borzelB Offline
                  borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                  last edited by

                  looked in my yum.log on this server (xen19):

                  our problems startet exactly since "Apr 10 18:10:29 Installed: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64"

                  yum.log.4.gz:Oct 03 17:35:54 Installed: kernel-4.4.52-4.0.7.1.x86_64
                  yum.log.4.gz:Nov 20 18:29:29 Updated: kernel-4.4.52-4.0.12.x86_64
                  yum.log.2.gz:Oct 10 20:19:31 Updated: kernel-4.4.52-4.0.13.x86_64
                  yum.log.1:Apr 10 18:10:29 Installed: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                  yum.log.1:Jul 07 17:46:34 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.11.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                  yum.log.1:Dec 10 17:59:07 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                  yum.log.1:Dec 19 13:53:39 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.13.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                  yum.log.1:Dec 19 13:55:20 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-7.0.9.1.xcpng8.2.x86_64
                  yum.log:Jan 18 17:35:07 Installed: kernel-alt-4.19.142-1.xcpng8.2.x86_64
                  
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                    r1 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                    last edited by

                    @borzel How frequently do you restart VMs? And what's the last dom-id? # xl list

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                    • borzelB Offline
                      borzel XCP-ng Center Team @r1
                      last edited by borzel

                      @r1 in general we do not restart many of our VMs, its all very static, only manual operated

                      xen19 is now rebootet (we need it in production) with kernel-alt - highest id is currently 4

                      xen22 (pool master of another affected pool) - highest id is curently 30

                      memory graphs of xen22
                      61ef0b14-6ec2-46ea-96e6-6efbd30eb528-grafik.png

                      yum.log of xen22 (Problem here also after installing kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64)

                      yum.log.5.gz:Dec 19 00:52:47 Updated: kernel-4.4.52-4.0.12.x86_6
                      yum.log.3.gz:Nov 08 10:07:40 Updated: kernel-4.4.52-4.0.13.x86_64
                      yum.log.1:Apr 10 20:31:01 Installed: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.10.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                      yum.log.1:Aug 31 23:10:50 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.11.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                      yum.log.1:Dec 11 18:00:54 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.12.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                      yum.log.1:Dec 19 12:52:00 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-6.0.13.1.xcpng8.1.x86_64
                      yum.log.1:Dec 19 12:54:13 Updated: kernel-4.19.19-7.0.9.1.xcpng8.2.x86_64
                      
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                        r1 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                        last edited by

                        @borzel Between 4.19.19-6.0.9 to 4.19.19-6.0.10, following two patches were added.

                        0001-block-cleanup-__blkdev_issue_discard.patch
                        0001-block-fix-32-bit-overflow-in-__blkdev_issue_discard.patch
                        

                        Both are well vetted and seems stable without any further changes in them. Was there anything else updated along with kernel?

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                        • borzelB Offline
                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team @r1
                          last edited by borzel

                          @r1 yes, ever line "installed" in yum.log is an Upgrade from XCP-ng.
                          Problems started with XCP-ng 8.x

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                          • stormiS Offline
                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                            last edited by

                            @borzel did you "yum upgrade" from 7.x from 8.x?

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                            • borzelB Offline
                              borzel XCP-ng Center Team @stormi
                              last edited by

                              @stormi on server xen19 I think so, on server xen22 I'm not sure

                              I looked more close on my memory graphs and saw, that the memory baseline increases every night:

                              "bump" every day:
                              ca76f2fc-89aa-49fb-aa33-5e568070fbc4-grafik.png

                              closer look in week 53:
                              692a8c57-f2b5-4284-8cab-be3a045fb179-grafik.png

                              Dez 31. - Jan 01.
                              8a267bb0-97c3-481c-9da9-bd031093496e-grafik.png

                              Our Backups run from 18.00 till 3 or 4 in the morning (including coalesce).

                              --> maybe the heavy IO load leads to memory leaks "somewhere"?

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                              • borzelB Offline
                                borzel XCP-ng Center Team
                                last edited by

                                Good news from the kernel-alt (server xen19): No RAM leaks so far 🙂

                                b6ca8f80-8bef-4dfe-9064-5823f6aba907-grafik.png

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                  last edited by

                                  At least that's consistent 🙂 Thanks for the feedback @borzel

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                                  • stormiS Offline
                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                    last edited by

                                    @borzel yum upgrade from 7.x to 8.x is not supported, so it's likely that your host isn't in a perfectly clean state.

                                    This is unrelated to the memory leak, but could cause other kinds of issues. Basically, scripts that should have run during the RPM upgrade to ensure the final state is consistent with what you'd have from an ISO upgrade either don't exist or haven't been tested.

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                                    • borzelB Offline
                                      borzel XCP-ng Center Team @stormi
                                      last edited by

                                      @stormi I'm not complete sure if I did the iso upgrade or not... 😕

                                      But it's a good idea to reinstall the poolmaster from scratch...

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                                        r1 XCP-ng Team @borzel
                                        last edited by

                                        @borzel I wish comparing kernel-alt and base kernel was easy to catch this... I'm sure that the tapdisk IO code is same in kernel and kernel-alt.

                                        Also the 2 patches mentioned earlier are also present in base kernel of xcp-ng 8.2 as well as kernel-alt 4.19.142. They are also present for xcp-ng 8.1 base kernel, however they are not present in xcp-ng 8.1 kernel-alt.

                                        Can you confirm your kernel-alt version?

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                                          r1 XCP-ng Team @r1
                                          last edited by

                                          @borzel Also, I somehow need to be able to reproduce the issue at lab. If you can give more details about how do you do backup, may be I can simulate something.

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                                            fasterfourier @r1
                                            last edited by

                                            @r1 If it helps at all, I have seen this more often on the pool master than in other pool hosts. We are using XO delta backup on 125 VMs in this pool daily. So, the master is busy doing a lot of snapshot coalesce operations (lots of iSCSI storage IO) compared to other hosts. The other host that has hit 95% control domain memory use is also IO heavy (it has some database server VMs).

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