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    Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      Xen and Linux kernel inside XCP-ng are completely custom, so it's pretty different than the those shipped in CentOS or even Alpine.

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      • JohnnyBeGoodJ Offline
        JohnnyBeGood
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        I've always used Debian LTS for many, many years. Just curious if Debian is anywhere on the radar for the replacement?

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by olivierlambert

          The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

          Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

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          • JohnnyBeGoodJ Offline
            JohnnyBeGood @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

            The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

            Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

            Got it. Thanks!

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily 🙂 (and move faster!)

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              • JohnnyBeGoodJ Offline
                JohnnyBeGood @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

                IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily 🙂 (and move faster!)

                I forgot about Citrix. In that case it makes sense to work together. Anything else is double work 🙂

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Indeed, there's no reason to reinvent the wheel. We always prefer to work together, there's too many things to do 🙂

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                  • gooluxG Offline
                    goolux
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                    Any news what will happened here?

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by olivierlambert

                      CentOS 7 will continue to be supported with patches and so on up to June the 30th 2024, so it's not really a priority as we speak. But I'm sure the topic will be discussed during the next Xen summit in June 🙂

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                        cdbessig
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                        Any updates here? We're 8 months away and its worrisome installing new nodes with less than 1 year lifetime.

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by olivierlambert

                          As I already explained in different places, what matters is the hypervisor, kernel, OVS and such important packages. We can still backport security fixes ourselves on various packages inside the OS.

                          XCP-ng is only partially based on CentOS, only using non-critical CentOS packages (NOT the kernel, NOT Xen, NOT OVS, SMAPI/XAPI aren't packaged in CentOS etc.).

                          XCP-ng is NOT your regular distro, it's an appliance where we backport relevant security fixes.

                          Be sure that next major version won't even have SSH access enabled by default.

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