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    Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?

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      jefftee @ieugen
      last edited by jefftee

      @ieugen Read the blog post that XCP-NG posted today on this very topic, but even if the decided to stick with CentOS 8 Stream for the future base platform, they have selective control over which packages/updates would get released for XCP-NG.

      I've already switched my CentOS 8.x installs to CentOS 8 Stream. Fedora is too buggy and too far upstream of RedHat for my personal taste. CentOS 8 Steam is supposed to be positioned between Fedora and RedHat, so they might just hit the sweet spot.

      Of course, if XCP-NG switched to Ubuntu LTS releases as the base going forward, I wouldn't cry about that either, so I anticipate this announcement from RedHat won't really affect XCP-NG and we'll look back on this and realize it was not a big deal.

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        IndyJ @jefftee
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        @jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux. ✌

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          jefftee @IndyJ
          last edited by

          @indyj ok

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            tuxen Top contributor @IndyJ
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            @indyj said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

            @jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux. ✌

            +1

            Low resource footprint, no bloatware... They even have a pre-built Xen Hypervisor ISO flavor 😉

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Xen and Linux kernel inside XCP-ng are completely custom, so it's pretty different than the those shipped in CentOS or even Alpine.

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                JohnnyBeGood
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                I've always used Debian LTS for many, many years. Just curious if Debian is anywhere on the radar for the replacement?

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by olivierlambert

                  The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

                  Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

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                    JohnnyBeGood @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

                    The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)

                    Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.

                    Got it. Thanks!

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily 🙂 (and move faster!)

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                        JohnnyBeGood @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:

                        IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily 🙂 (and move faster!)

                        I forgot about Citrix. In that case it makes sense to work together. Anything else is double work 🙂

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Indeed, there's no reason to reinvent the wheel. We always prefer to work together, there's too many things to do 🙂

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                            goolux
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                            Any news what will happened here?

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                              last edited by olivierlambert

                              CentOS 7 will continue to be supported with patches and so on up to June the 30th 2024, so it's not really a priority as we speak. But I'm sure the topic will be discussed during the next Xen summit in June 🙂

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                                cdbessig
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                                Any updates here? We're 8 months away and its worrisome installing new nodes with less than 1 year lifetime.

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                  last edited by olivierlambert

                                  As I already explained in different places, what matters is the hypervisor, kernel, OVS and such important packages. We can still backport security fixes ourselves on various packages inside the OS.

                                  XCP-ng is only partially based on CentOS, only using non-critical CentOS packages (NOT the kernel, NOT Xen, NOT OVS, SMAPI/XAPI aren't packaged in CentOS etc.).

                                  XCP-ng is NOT your regular distro, it's an appliance where we backport relevant security fixes.

                                  Be sure that next major version won't even have SSH access enabled by default.

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