[dedicated thread] Dell Open Manage Appliance (OME)
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@AtaxyaNetwork First, I want to say, THANK YOU!!! for putting this together! Legit, kudo's.
I ran into one problem in your article:
"for xen-blkfront.ko
mv xen-blkfront.ko /lib/modules/5.14.21-150400.24.108-default/kernel/block/
for xen-netfront.ko
mv xen-netfront.ko /lib/modules/5.14.21-150400.24.108-default/kernel/net/"If I try the MV command after the for line, I get MV is an invalid command. I simply bypassed the for lines, and did a pure MV.
It seems to have worked (I can now boot, and get into it).
Second related question: Is there any way to install the XCPNG Client drivers at the same time, so this VM responds to XCPNG commands (shutdown/etc) ?
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@AtaxyaNetwork I tried the same edits, and I received the same errors btw. After looking at the instructions further, Dell's KVM user guide says there should be two hard drives as part of the VM.
First drive is for the OS/Base system, second hard drive is for plugins and any related data.It does say it will boot without the second drive, but basically wont be useable without it. I tried re-doing the instructions but converting the second drive at the same time, and the problem persists. So I think there is a step somewhere after the ko driver install to help it "see" the second drive at all, not really sure how to fix that.
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@TheNorthernLight @pctechsolution
I'll have some time the next day to work on this.
So basically the things to check:- Why CPU/RAM/DISK is not correctly displayed
- Have a way to plug a second disk and have it seen by OME
- Have a way to install tools
Do you know if the second disk has something special in it, or I can just add a disk via XOA and call it a day ?
(BTW, if you have support from Dell, you can push them to be compatible with XCP-ng/Xen. I'll be happy to discuss with them to make the appliance work natively
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@AtaxyaNetwork Since I cant get it to mount on boot, I have no idea if there is something special about it (I suspect it just has some existing folder structures, but I'm not 100% sure).
Also, I wish I had Dell support, but we buy all of our hardware second-hand. So no support contract here.
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@TheNorthernLight No problem, buying second-hand hardware is good for the planet
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@AtaxyaNetwork Thank you. Let me know anyway I can help or test. Im not sure about needing a second disk.
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@AtaxyaNetwork
Thank you for providing these instructions. I tried this awhile back in January and it looked very promising, but I ended up getting stuck with similar problems like those listed above. I was checking this thread to see if there was an update, so it's somewhat nice to see I'm not the only one struggling with this.We do have a support contract with Dell except they won't budge from there position. I went back and forth with my rep for a couple months with "best effort" but ultimately I was told XCP-ng is not a supported hypervisor. The old version on 3.x still works, so I'm stuck with that.
Hopefully others are asking Dell to add support for XCP-ng. I'll continue to watch this space for an update. Thanks again for your efforts.
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Thanks @joncuddy
We have to get back to Dell with a very large customer to change their mind. Catch 22 issue, but we have more and more (very) large customers, so this will change.
@stormi we need to note that somewhere internally and monitor the opportunity to get back to Dell with a deal big enough to change their mind.
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I'd love to see support added for XCP-NG by Dell as well. I also run Lenovo xClarity Administrator and their appliance works in XCP-NG without any modification!
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@joncuddy @TheNorthernLight @pctechsolution
I have a new version available !
What's changed:
- Fixed disk detection
- CPU/RAM is correctly detected
- I was able to install and uninstall some plugins (Power Manager, Integration for VMware Center, Operation Manager)
- Network is configured with DHCP by default
- Added the guest-tools !
To do:
- Try to hack the grub password (because it's fun)
- Have more feedback to tackle the last bugs (I know my fixes is not perfect)
- Have Dell official support
Ping me if you want the appliance, I'll send you a link with the password !
I'll try to use it with my 3 R630 machines to do further tests
@olivierlambert can we change the topic title to something more accurate ?
Since it became the OME megathread -
On it, thanks for your work @AtaxyaNetwork
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@AtaxyaNetwork This is fantastic!
What remaining last bugs are you aware of? -
@TheNorthernLight guest-tools and SELinux, I bypass it, but it's not the best case I can achieve. I am working on a better fix
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@flakpyro
I'd love to see what you did!
On the GRUB password thing, I cheated and opened it with another instance os SLES and jacked around with the menus from a working system. I tried a million things but could never get the tools installation to work!-
Mount up basically any linux installer or system rescue ISO.
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Boot into that (If using SLES, go to other options and select "RESCUE MODE" and wait).... get a shell...
This will let you ssh into it
sudo ssh-keygen -A
sudo service ssh --full-restart
ip addr # so I can know how to get in from putty
cat $PATH
passwd (makes a new password so you can ssh inot it)
/sbin/sshd
lvdisplay
mkdir -p /mnt/sysimage/boot
mount /dev/xvda2 /mnt/sysimage/boot
mount /dev/OMCAppVG/LVRoot /mnt/sysimage
mount -t proc none /mnt/sysimage/proc
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/sysimage/dev
mount -o bind /run /mnt/sysimage/run
/mnt/sysimage
for x in sys proc run dev tmp; do mount --bind /$x /mnt/sysimage/$x; done
chroot /mnt/sysimageI saw these instructions somone where but I coudl not figure out these steps ?
8 ) Enable root logins in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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Enable sshd via: systemctl enable sshd
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Set a temporary password for root via passwd
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Exit the chroot and the installer/rescue image... let it boot back into OME
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Cache your ssh key in root's keystore via whatever method you like... my preferred is ssh-copy-id
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Remove root's temporary password...
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So testing the appliance and here is what i have encountered so far:
Boots up no problem, XO sees tools installed and all stats work.
It took me two attempts to upgrade it to 4.4.0.75, the first attempt failed, i reverted a snapshot from before trying and upon trying again it was successful.
However i can no longer install / update plugins, back to throwing disk space capacity errors. I'm guessing whatever was modified in the appliance you shared was reverted by the update which now causes it to think there is no disk space again.
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@archw Thanks for the idea ! I'll try this
@flakpyro yeah unfortunately I think dell overwrite every file when updating the appliance. It will be an issue for every update.
I can try to prepare an up-to-date instance and give it to you, if you want. But I'll need to regenerate the appliance each time an update is available and depending on if dell is providing regulars updates, I can be annoying
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Could someone summarize this thread for me (XCP-ng Product Owner) so that I see what could be worth tracking and/or doing on our side?
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@stormi TLDR: xen-blkfront and xen-netfront drivers are missing
More info here: https://blog.ataxya.net/add-xen-driver-to-ome-dell-open-manage-enterprise/ -
@stormi Also, some bit of code are hardcoded with /dev/sd*, I changed that to /dev/xvd*
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@AtaxyaNetwork I understand it would be a lot of work to make a new XVA every time Dell updates the appliance. Would it be possible to write a shell script that we could copy to the appliance and run after the fact that could change the /dev/sda to /dev/xvda in the needed files perhaps? I can try running it on my updated appliance you sent me, im just not sure where the drives are being referenced.
Something like
sed -i -e 's/sda/xvda/g' /etc/whatever.conf?
