VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!

severhart

Have successfully migrated 2 VMs from ESXI, doing MANY Hyper-v migrations, and have a suggestion / feature..
THIS is likely not the forum for this, but I know you guys are in a similar situation...

Is it possible to add within XOA or the XCP-ng Center to allow attaching to a hyper-v cluster and do drag and drop style of migrations from hyper-v to XCP?
I had something similar setup for a past company that allowed me to attach to any type of cluster and manage all from within a single pane of glass ( Until all migrations were complete )

ulasdem

@florent I will try this branch and inform you in next week

florent

@severhart that would really put the orchestra in xen orchestra , but it would be a huge workload

olivierlambert

We are potentially investigating if HyperV APIs are friendly to do a similar thing than we do with VMware.

However, we do not have the objective to have XO managing VMware or HyperV clusters (at least, not for the next 3 years)

severhart

@olivierlambert I understand that, just for the migration purposes is all.. some of these migrations take months, if not years to get complete, and having it all under a single hood while that migration work is being done would be nice... I know that it is a HUGE ask

olivierlambert

Yeah, each platform got its own logic, that's why having an universal one is very very hard, except if you are a very big company able to have dedicated people on it (while doing all the rest).

I mean, if we can do it, it means we had a huge success, so I won't be against that

ismo-conguairta

I have two different behaviour on two different XO instances. Each XO instance refers to a different pool (different hosts, same xcp-ng version). In both the instances I try to connect to the same Private Virtual Datacenter based on VMware/vSphere at OVH.

In the first one I get the following error message by using the web UI: "invalid parameters" (take a look at this logfile 2023-02-28T19_25_21.933Z - XO.txt )

In the second one, I get the following error message by using the web UI "404 Not Found https://<vsphere-ip>/folder/<vm-name>/<vm-name>.vmx?dsName=<datastore-name>"

By using the xo-cli I get the "404 Not Found" on both the instances.

Regarding the "404 Not Found", I want to point out that at OVH I have a VMware datacenter (with 2 hosts) and in order to access to the storage I need to specify the parameter dcPath=<datacenter-name>

So the right URL should be https://<vsphere-ip>/folder/<vm-name>/<vm-name>.vmx?dcPath=<datacenter-name>&dsName=<datastore-name>

Simply adding (in a static way) the dcPath specification on line :54 of esxi.mjs file makes it work.

olivierlambert

Interesting, that's probably a parameter we need to add (as optional) in the case it's needed. Would you mind test a dedicated branch when @florent will add it?

ismo-conguairta

@olivierlambert Yeah sure! No problem, it'll be a pleasure.

Do you have any idea about the issue related to the message "invalid parameters"? Do you have any suggestion in order to go deeper? Thanks.

olivierlambert

No but @florent will take a look ASAP

Seclusion

For what it's worth I'm seeing the same invalid parameters error when I attempt to perform a migration from an on prem ESXI 7.0U2 host.

Error message:

vm.importFromEsxi
{
 "host": "* obfuscated *",
 "network": "1fb3daf2-b27d-b7ef-48ce-b8986440247a",
 "password": "* obfuscated *",
 "sr": {
   "type": "SR",
   "content_type": "user",
   "physical_usage": 26223620096,
   "allocationStrategy": "thin",
   "current_operations": {},
   "inMaintenanceMode": false,
   "name_description": "",
   "name_label": "Local storage",
   "size": 964124073984,
   "shared": false,
   "SR_type": "ext",
   "tags": [],
   "usage": 79456894976,
   "VDIs": [
     "393e3767-07c2-4c23-bdca-b573e8ba5980",
     "16a72d41-a97d-4b8b-ae6e-3b043882ef8e",
     "59ae272b-00a8-483c-975b-48f55a15119b",
     "dcf1d26c-1f85-41f5-9045-cb931bf9ab3b"
   ],
   "other_config": {
     "i18n-original-value-name_label": "Local storage",
     "i18n-key": "local-storage"
   },
   "sm_config": {
     "devserial": ""
   },
   "$container": "5a58d8a6-0ed1-4825-b1fd-8d720832bf02",
   "$PBDs": [
     "26c0dc31-2cf6-15c5-8683-5c60e10382d0"
   ],
   "id": "3662768f-4a40-31ed-54b9-21eb26876205",
   "uuid": "3662768f-4a40-31ed-54b9-21eb26876205",
   "$pool": "20ec2c95-dbb7-f4a3-8bb6-a80ff9de4d00",
   "$poolId": "20ec2c95-dbb7-f4a3-8bb6-a80ff9de4d00",
   "_xapiRef": "OpaqueRef:e1b6c317-a854-449b-80e3-b69bbeb389fc"
 },
 "sslVerify": false,
 "stopSource": false,
 "thin": true,
 "user": "root",
 "vm": "16"
}
{
 "code": 10,
 "data": {
   "errors": [
     {
       "instancePath": "/sr",
       "schemaPath": "#/properties/sr/type",
       "keyword": "type",
       "params": {
         "type": "string"
       },
       "message": "must be string"
     }
   ]
 },
 "message": "invalid parameters",
 "name": "XoError",
 "stack": "XoError: invalid parameters
   at Module.invalidParameters (/opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202302280214/packages/xo-common/api-errors.js:26:11)
   at Xo.call (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202302280214/packages/xo-server/src/xo-mixins/api.mjs:65:20)
   at Api.#callApiMethod (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202302280214/packages/xo-server/src/xo-mixins/api.mjs:390:19)"
}

olivierlambert

@Seclusion are you doing it while the VM is running on VMware side? If yes, that's normal then, the delta mode (VM on) isn't supported yet on ESXi > 6.5

Seclusion

@olivierlambert No, I thought doing a live migration seemed too ambitions to try first, but I also didn't realize that it also wasn't supported, haha. Here are my settings: Screenshot from 2023-02-28 17-41-20.png
and on on the esxi side:

XO-log.txt
I am currently on commit 25759

olivierlambert

@florent will take a look

florent

@ismo-conguairta said in VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!:

I have two different behaviour on two different XO instances. Each XO instance refers to a different pool (different hosts, same xcp-ng version). In both the instances I try to connect to the same Private Virtual Datacenter based on VMware/vSphere at OVH.

In the first one I get the following error message by using the web UI: "invalid parameters" (take a look at this logfile 2023-02-28T19_25_21.933Z - XO.txt )

In the second one, I get the following error message by using the web UI "404 Not Found https://<vsphere-ip>/folder/<vm-name>/<vm-name>.vmx?dsName=<datastore-name>"

By using the xo-cli I get the "404 Not Found" on both the instances.

Regarding the "404 Not Found", I want to point out that at OVH I have a VMware datacenter (with 2 hosts) and in order to access to the storage I need to specify the parameter dcPath=<datacenter-name>

So the right URL should be https://<vsphere-ip>/folder/<vm-name>/<vm-name>.vmx?dcPath=<datacenter-name>&dsName=<datastore-name>

Simply adding (in a static way) the dcPath specification on line :54 of esxi.mjs file makes it work.

I thought it was constant. I will look into the api to get it, and if not possible expose it in the UI

@Seclusion : noted I will look into theis error message, this one is a first for me

ismo-conguairta

@Seclusion @florent In my case the ESXi version is 7.0.3 (build 20842708) and the vCSA version is 7.0 (build 20845200). The VM I try to migrate is not running on VMware side.
The only difference between the 2 XO instances is that the first one is installed on a PV machine while the second one on a PVHVM machine.

florent

@ismo-conguairta @rajaa-b can you check it, I think the full SR object is sent to the backend when changing the sr from the default one to another , instead of the id

florent

@ismo-conguairta
Can you try this branch : https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/6694/files ?

Edit : I can get the dcPath from the esxi api, you can test from the frontend, no need to use the command line

For now you can't change the SR ( changing it will lead to a parameter error)

fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

closed feat(xo-server): use dcpath in Esxi import #6694

ismo-conguairta

@florent I just checked the branch and I get this error message "404 Not Found https://<vsphere-host>/folder/<vm-name>/<vm-name>.vmx?dcPath=datacenter-61&dsName=<ds-name>"

where datacenter-61 is not the right reference to my datacenter. Please take a look at the following screenshot.

From documentation

dcPath is the inventory path to the Datacenter containing the Datastore.

florent

@ismo-conguairta said in VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!:

inventory path to the Datacenter

I updated to use another property (from https://developer.vmware.com/apis/196/vsphere/doc/vim.Datacenter.html ) is it better ? on our lab, theses properties have the same value