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    • RealTehrealR
      RealTehreal
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      @nikade @john-c I'm not sure... how do I elaborate? At least, I can ssh into the hosts and never disconnect.

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      • RealTehrealR
        RealTehreal @nikade
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        @nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

        I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
        What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

        I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

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          john.c @RealTehreal
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          @RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

          @nikade said in Issue after latest host update:

          I cant really understand what happend to be honest, i've done this many times without issues.
          What can you see in the console tab of the VM when u start it? Or in the stats tab?

          I can'T see anything, because XOA itself is inaccessible, since it's a VM. And VMs won't start into a usable state.

          Anything in the XCP-ng 8.2.1 host logs for it attempting to start the VM and generally? It may hold clues, about any underlying issues.

          Also any appropriate logs for the NFS storage server would help, as that may reveal anything that can be causing issues on its end.

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          • olivierlambertO
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            Any specific MTU settings?

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            • olivierlambertO
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              A way to check if it's not network related would be using a local SR to boot a VM and see if it works.

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              • RealTehrealR
                RealTehreal @john.c
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                @john-c I already took a look at dmesg and /var/log/xensource.log (I crawled through >1k log lines) and couldn't find anything revealing. The NFS server is unrelated, because, as stated before, I currently only use host's local storage to eliminate possible external issues.

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                • RealTehrealR
                  RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert That's what I'm doing, to make sure, it's not a network related issue.

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                  • RealTehrealR
                    RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert I didn't change anything, at least. Just yum update and it went down the flush.

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                    • olivierlambertO
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      I'm not sure the yum update is really related. It could be a coincidence, otherwise we would have been swamped in similar reports. Or it's a very specific combo that's unseen elsewhere.

                      What kind of hardware are we talking about?

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                      • RealTehrealR
                        RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert I finally made some progress. And it really seems to be update related.

                        I took one of the hosts and plugged a display and keyboard into it. When booting up, I can choose to use an older version of Xen from the boot menu. Doing so makes VMs work again.

                        Culprit: Xen 4.13.5-9.39 (current default)
                        Working: Xen 4.13.4-9.19.1 (which I can choose from boot menu)

                        All three hosts are Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients.

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                          john.c @RealTehreal
                          last edited by john.c

                          @RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

                          @olivierlambert I finally made some progress. And it really seems to be update related.

                          I took one of the hosts and plugged a display and keyboard into it. When booting up, I can choose to use an older version of Xen from the boot menu. Doing so makes VMs work again.

                          Culprit: Xen 4.13.5-9.39 (current default)
                          Working: Xen 4.13.4-9.19.1 (which I can choose from boot menu)

                          All three hosts are Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients.

                          What's the BIOS version of the Fujitsu Futro 740 and also the more exact model please? There's lots of Fujitsu Futro 740 thin clients, so you could be using any one of them.

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                          • RealTehrealR
                            RealTehreal @john.c
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                            @john-c
                            Model: FUJITSU FUTRO S740/D3544-A1
                            BIOS: V5.0.0.13 R1.13.0 for D3544-A1x (09/23/2022)

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                              john.c @RealTehreal
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                              @RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

                              @john-c
                              Model: FUJITSU FUTRO S740/D3544-A1
                              BIOS: V5.0.0.13 R1.13.0 for D3544-A1x (09/23/2022)

                              Thanks that will help. As it enables identification if there's any issues, specific to that device. As well as its specific included CPU and its functions and features, especially its instruction set capabilities.

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                              • RealTehrealR
                                RealTehreal @john.c
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                                @john-c All such information should be available in the dmesg file in post: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/74791

                                Any ideas on how to revert the update? I would really like to have the setup running again. It may be "just" a home lab, but I was still using it (at least semi-) productively...

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                                • RealTehrealR
                                  RealTehreal
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                                  I'd be even fine to only use two machines and keep one of them offline for further testing.

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                                  • RealTehrealR
                                    RealTehreal
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                                    For reference: I now decided to use a less intrusive approach and changed the default boot entry in grub config to the working failover entry. I will now try to get the pool up again.

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                                    • olivierlambertO
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                      last edited by

                                      What's the CPU on this? I would suspect a micro code update issue then.

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                                      • olivierlambertO
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                        last edited by

                                        Could be related: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/8736/wyse-5070-vm-won-t-booting-after-update-bios-1-27

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                                        • RealTehrealR
                                          RealTehreal @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert Following info from /proc/cpuinfo:
                                          Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4105 CPU @ 1.50GHz

                                          True enough, regarding the Wyse topic. I'll try reverting only the microcode update and see, what happens.

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                                          • olivierlambertO
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                            last edited by

                                            @RealTehreal said in Issue after latest host update:

                                            Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4105 CPU @ 1.50GHz

                                            Another Gemini Lake… So it's clearly related.

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