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    After installing updates: 0 bytes free, Control domain memory = 0B

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      Dataslak @nikade
      last edited by Dataslak

      @nikade Thank you for your help! I deeply appreciate your insights as well as @stormi .

      I have six servers which have run 8.3 for 1/2 year, with 3 and 40 VMs on each working very nicely. Can I therefore assume that BIOS settings have been correct? Or will a recent update to XCP-ng 8.3 have triggered the need for additional BIOS settings to be made? Or a newer BIOS?

      This is an AMD Ryzen 9 CPU running on B650 chipset motherboard. I have verified in BIOS that :

      SVM Mode = Enabled (Enable/disable CPU Virtualization)
      SR-IOV Support = Disabled
      IOMMU = Disabled
      I have not found the HAP setting yet. Don't know if it is called something else. When I google it I do not get any hits indicating that there's even a setting called "HAP" or "Hardware assistedΒ paging"?

      I have found these four BIOS-settings to be of matter to XCP-ng in forums/troubleshooting docs I've found. Are there any other BIOS settings I have overlooked and should be mindful of?

      The BIOS is more than 6 months old; I will try to update BIOS on one of the hosts to see if this makes any change to the problem.

      Edit:
      I have now updated the BIOS.
      XOA still reports:
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      The "Hardware-assisted virtualization is not enabled on this host" message appeared after installing these updates:
      https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fqh6gjc24j6fuvrpe9tdr/yum_history_info.txt?rlkey=cqbho9lm9pdbpds0dn409zub0&dl=1

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        olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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        Enable IOMMU too

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          Dataslak @olivierlambert
          last edited by Dataslak

          @olivierlambert Thank you for your input. πŸ™
          IOMMU changed from Auto to Enabled πŸ‘

          Edit:
          After the host comes up again XO still complains " Hardware-assisted virtualization is not enabled on this host".

          Is there anything else I can do to debug this issue? On second thought: @stormi is on the case, so I should not do anything unless he tells me to.

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          • olivierlambertO Online
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            Is it better now?

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              Dataslak @olivierlambert
              last edited by Dataslak

              @olivierlambert
              I can not see any change to the problem.
              The host still starts up in maintenance mode. Memory reports no space left despite no VMs running. Not even the host barebone OS itself is shown on the empty memory bar under the "General" tab.

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              When trying to start a VM:

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              The full message text:

              -1(list index out of range, , Traceback (most recent call last):
              File "/etc/xapi.d/plugins/xcpngutils/init.py", line 119, in wrapper
              return func(*args, **kwds)
              File "/etc/xapi.d/plugins/hyperthreading.py", line 17, in get_hyperthreading
              return json.dumps(int(lines[0]) > 1)
              IndexError: list index out of range

              When I google "AMD HyperThreading" (since this is not an Intel-system but AMD): Google says "Hyper-threading is the Intel technology name, and commonly known name, for the Computing concept known as simultaneous multithreading. AMD have an equivalent technology known as Cluster Multi-threading."
              This is enabled by default in BIOS (and I reset BIOS to defaults before upgrading BIOS just an hour ago).

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              • olivierlambertO Online
                olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                What's the output of xl dmesg

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                  Dataslak @olivierlambert
                  last edited by Dataslak

                  @olivierlambert
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                  • olivierlambertO Online
                    olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                    You have an issue: I'm pretty sure you are using Xen 4.13 while using the 4.17 tooling around, causing this problem. So the question is "why are you booting on 4.13?". Double check your Grub menu when you boot, to see that you actually boots on Xen 4.17

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                      Dataslak @olivierlambert
                      last edited by Dataslak

                      @olivierlambert
                      https://xcp-ng.org/forum/assets/uploads/files/1714683479351-b73237cc-8f27-4789-a9d3-5e322c2cd244-image.png

                      Answer to your question : I don't know πŸ™‚
                      Six servers have been running fine for months. Then i accepted XO's request to install these updates and the problem manifested on all six.
                      I did nothing to XCP-ng for months before this happened. Did nothing other than reboot one host after, which then made me realize that something was seriously wrong since no VMs came up. I then also saw the other problems shown in screen clippings earlier in this chat.
                      Luckily the VMs continued running on the other hosts. I am very happy I only rebooted one first. Or all VMs would have been down for days.

                      Lacking in mental capacity to understand what has happened I am therefore hoping you and your eminent staff can "Sherlock Holmes" this :-).
                      How can the abovementioned updates have triggered it?
                      Can it happen to others?

                      I may have waited too long between checking if updates were waiting to be installed. Could this have caused the problem? Were they installed in incorrect order?

                      I can not find Xen 4.17 in the boot menu. How do I fix this? Should I create a new 8.3 installation media and try to upgrade the system? Can I do this safely without damaging VMs?

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                        Well, first, you are on XCP-ng 8.3, right? It's still a beta, so by definition this could happen (especially a jump like this from Xen 4.13 to 4.17). If you want guarantee stability, you have to stick to our LTS version.

                        Anyway, to know which Xen version you are running, you can do a: cat /sys/hypervisor/version/minor. If it's 17, then you are on Xen 4.17 and that's your issue. I don't know how this could happen in the first place, like if the Grub file was never updated or tinkered before.

                        To check a bit more, when on Grub, press "e" key to edit the first entry and make a picture to see what's displayed there. I'm thinking on a way to regen Grub that will take the right Xen version into account (ping @stormi )

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                          Dataslak @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert
                          I had to use 8.3 on these newest 6 hosts since 8.2.1 gave me a black screen mid-way in the installation. I guess because of missing drivers. The forum adviced 8.3 and that worked wonderfully. It has been working fine for more than 1/2 year (forgot when I started using it).

                          I did not register well enough that i was running a risk by doing this. Mea culpa.

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                            Dataslak @Dataslak
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                            @Dataslak
                            I am late to a meeting with customers. I would much rather stay in the office to work with this. But when I come back in a couple of hours I will eagerly check for a recipe/howto on what to do next, and then carefully follow those.
                            I am very optimistic now. Thank you all for assisting and to @olivierlambert for the big development today.

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                            • olivierlambertO Online
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                              So now we know the problem, the next step will be to solve it πŸ™‚

                              Let's check what's going on in /boot with a ls -la /boot

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                                nikade Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                                @olivierlambert said in After installing updates: 0 bytes free, Control domain memory = 0B:

                                You have an issue: I'm pretty sure you are using Xen 4.13 while using the 4.17 tooling around, causing this problem. So the question is "why are you booting on 4.13?". Double check your Grub menu when you boot, to see that you actually boots on Xen 4.17

                                Nice catch, this is what community is all about πŸ™‚

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                                  Dataslak @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert
                                  I love and respect your attitude πŸ™‚
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                                  Agree wholeheartedly with @nikade πŸ™‚

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                                  • olivierlambertO Online
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                                    So /boot/xen.gz is pointing to xen-4.17.3-4.gz, which sounds correct. So why you are still running on Xen 4.13? πŸ€” It's like you did not reboot, but since you showed me the Grub menu, I'm assuming you already did πŸ€”

                                    It would be interesting to compare the existing xen file and see if it's the right one from our repo. Something is fishy here πŸ€”

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                                    • olivierlambertO Online
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                                      Can you md5sum xen-4.17.3-4.gz

                                      From the mirror & RPM, I have f011721be0c7b57563e29ed282558da3

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                                        Adding @yann in the loop in case I'm missing something obvious

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                                          @Dataslak what does lsblk -o name,mountpoint,label,size,uuid show?

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