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    XCPNG 8.3 availability?

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      SylvainB
      last edited by

      Hello everyone,

      I am setting up a shared infrastructure for a client, and they are asking me to enable vTPM on the self-service. I read this feature requires XCPNG 8.3. When will XCPNG 8.3 be publicly available? Is there an easy workaround in the meantime?

      Thank you!

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
        last edited by

        Hi,

        It's a matter of weeks now (like 4 or 5). Our beta is rather stable, but it will be a bit more risky to update when the final XCP-ng 8.3 will land.

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          SylvainB @olivierlambert
          last edited by

          @olivierlambert

          Thanks Olivier, if I accept the risk, how can I upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 beta ?

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by olivierlambert

            Just insert the ISO, boot on it and follow instructions 🙂 This will even backup your previous 8.2 install in case you want to move back.

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              SylvainB @olivierlambert
              last edited by

              @olivierlambert Thanks !👍

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              • planedropP Offline
                planedrop Top contributor
                last edited by

                I may have missed it (been out on vacation and then got COVID so I've been absent from the forums 😞 )

                But is 8.3 going to be upgradeable in place without using the ISO on official release or is it still going to require the ISO upgrade method?

                Going to upgrade my entire lab to Beta 2 as soon as I can to get testing with some things, will just use the ISO for that, but thinking about my production installs.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  You mean 8.3 beta to RC to final with yum?

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                    planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
                    last edited by

                    @olivierlambert Apologies, I should have explained better.

                    I mean from 8.2.1 to 8.3 once final is out, using yum instead of having to use the ISO to install.

                    Basically, using XOA to install the update like I would normally update a host instead of using the ISO.

                    And again apologies if I missed it.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      8.2 to 8.3 will be only ISO upgrade supported, since it's far less risky. Doesn't mean yum won't work, but it won't be officially supported or tested 🙂

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                        bvitnik @olivierlambert
                        last edited by bvitnik

                        @olivierlambert Will 8.1 to 8.3 upgrade path also be supported?

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          Via ISO, the upgrade should work too, yes 🙂

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                          • planedropP Offline
                            planedrop Top contributor @olivierlambert
                            last edited by

                            @olivierlambert Makes total sense to me, just wanted to be sure.

                            Excited to upgrade my lab, should have done it with the first beta but just hadn't found the time.

                            Thanks!

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                            • stormiS Offline
                              stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @olivierlambert
                              last edited by stormi

                              @olivierlambert said in XCPNG 8.3 availability?:

                              8.2 to 8.3 will be only ISO upgrade supported, since it's far less risky. Doesn't mean yum won't work, but it won't be officially supported or tested 🙂

                              Actually, I'm going to make it impossible, on purpose, because it won't give you a clean and supported 8.3.

                              However, there's still the alternate upgrade method using the ISO which doesn't require to boot it: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/installation/upgrade/#using-the-installation-when-you-cant-boot-from-it-remote-upgrade (once we have fixed a remaining issue with this upgrade method in 8.3).

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                                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @bvitnik
                                last edited by stormi

                                @bvitnik said in XCPNG 8.3 availability?:

                                @olivierlambert Will 8.1 to 8.3 upgrade path also be supported?

                                It will work, and we will test it internally, but be aware that it will not benefit from the big amount of QA made by XenServer for XenServer 8, because they only guarantee 8.2 CU1 => 8.3.

                                8.1 fully updated => 8.2.1 fully updated => 8.3 is a safer route.

                                I don't expect any issue outside maybe very specific situations, for the 8.1 => 8.3 upgrade, though.

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                                  Houbsi
                                  last edited by

                                  If someone is already rocking and testing 8.3, what would be the best way to update?

                                  A. Fresh Install 8.3 with the ISO
                                  A.1 Afterwards importing configuration backup?
                                  B. Update 8.3 beta with 8.3 ISO Upgrade path?

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                                  • stormiS Offline
                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Houbsi
                                    last edited by

                                    @Houbsi B. This will give you a clean system but will keep your XAPI database, SRs, VMs, etc.

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                                      CJ @stormi
                                      last edited by

                                      @stormi Is using the ISO the only way to go from 8.3 Beta to 8.3? Will there be a patch/update path?

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                                        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @CJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @CJ yum update from 8.3 beta to 8.3 will be possible, but I still recommend using the ISO. In a perfect world, yum update would give you exactly the same result, but in reality there are always corner cases where files or packages are left behind (we have no sane way to tell yum/rpm to remove an installed RPM, unless making another RPM obsolete it and thus make it impossible to reinstall later if someone needs it for a good reason).

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