Update published: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/09/27/september-2024-security-updates/
Thank you for the tests!
Update published: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/09/27/september-2024-security-updates/
Thank you for the tests!
Two new XSAs were published on 30th of January.
xen-*
:yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
yum update "xen-*" --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
xen
: 4.13.5-9.38.2.xcpng8.2Normal use and anything else you want to test, if you are using PCI passthrough devices that's even better, but we also would be glad to have confirmation from others that their normal use case still works as intended.
Test window before official release of the updates
2 day because of security updates.
A new XSA was published on the 23rd of January, so we have a new security update to include it.
kernel
:yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
yum update kernel --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
kernel
: 4.19.19-7.0.23.1.xcpng8.2Normal use and anything else you want to test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.
Test window before official release of the updates
~2 days due to security updates.
Update published https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/07/18/july-2024-security-updates/
Thank you everyone for your tests!
Two new XSAs were published on 16th of July.
xen-*
:
xapi
, xsconsole
:
yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
yum update "xen-*" "xapi-*" xsconsole --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
xen
: xen-4.13.5-9.40.2.xcpng8.2xapi
: xapi-1.249.36-1.2.xcpng8.2xsconsole
: xsconsole-10.1.13-1.2.xcpng8.2Normal use and anything else you want to test.
~ 1 day because of security updates.
The update has been published, thanks for testing.
https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/02/02/february-2024-security-update/
The update has been published, thanks for the feedback and tests.
https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/01/26/january-2024-security-update/
Hello guys,
I'll be the one investigating this further, we're trying to compile a list of CPUs and their behavior. First, thank you for your reports and tests, that's already very helpful and gave us some insight already.
If some of you can help us cover more ground that would be awesome, so here is what would be an ideal for testing to get everyone on the same page:
yum install iperf
²š: it seems some recent kernels do provide a slight boost, but in any case the performance is pretty low for such high grade CPUs.
²: iperf3 is singlethreaded, the -P
option will establish multiple connexions, but it will process all of them in a single thread, so if reaching a 100% cpu usage, it won't get much increase and won't help identifying the scaling on such a cpu. For example on a Ryzen 5 7600
processor, we do have about the same low perfomances, but using multiple thread will scale, which does not seem to be the case for EPYC Zen1 CPUs.
xentop
on host, and try to get an idea of the top values of each domain when the test is runningiperf -s
on VM1, and let it run (no -P X
this would stop after X connexion established)iperf -c <ip_VM1> -t 60
, note result for v2v 1 threadiperf -c <ip_VM1> -t 60 -P4
, note result for v2v 4 threadsiperf -c <ip_VM1> -t 60
, note result for h2v 1 threadiperf -c <ip_VM1> -t 60 -P4
, note result for h2v 4 threadsHere is an example of report template
xl info -n
especially the cpu_topology
section in a code block.Âł: I note the max I see while test is running in vm-client/vm-server/host order.
Mostly for information, here are a few tests I ran which did not seem to improve performances.
noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2 spectre_v2_user=off spectre_v2=off nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off mitigations=off
. Note this won't disable them at xen level as there are patches that enable the fixes for the related hardware with no flags to disable them.noxsave
in kernel boot parameters as there is a known issue on Zen CPU avoided boosting when a core is under heavy AVX load, still no changes.Not tested it myself but @nicols tried on the same machine giving him about 3Gbps as we all see, on VMWare, and it went to ~25Gbps single threaded and about 40Gbps with 4 threads, and with proxmox about 21.7Gbps (I assume single threaded) which are both a lot more along what I would expect this hardware to produce.
@JamesG did test windows and debian guests and got about the same results.
Althrough we do get a small boost by increasing threads (or connexions in case of iperf3), it still is far from what we can see on other setups with vmware or proxmox).
Althrough Olivier's pool with zen4 desktop cpu do scale a lot better than EPYCs when increasing the number of threads, it still is not providing us with expected results for such powerful cpus in single thread (we do not even reach vmware single thread performances with 4 threads).
Althrough @Ajmind-0 test show a difference between debian versions, results even on debian 11 are stil not on par with expected results.
Disabling AVX only provided an improvement on my home FX cpu, which are known to not have real "threads" and share computing unit between 2 threads of a core, so it does make sense. (this is not shown in the table)
It seems that memcpy in the glibc is not related to the issue, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null
has decent performances on these machines (1.2-1.3GBytes/s), and it's worth keeping in mind that both kernel and xen have their own implementation, so it could play a small role in filling the ring buffer in iperf, but I feel like the libc memcpy() is not at play here.
I'll update this table with updated results, or maybe repost it in further post.
Throughputs are in Gbit/s, noted as G
for shorter table entries.
CPU usages are for (VMclient/VMserver/dom0) in percentage as shown in xentop
.
user | cpu | family | market | v2v 1T | v2v 4T | h2v 1T | h2v 4T | notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
vates | fx8320-e | piledriver | desktop | 5.64 G (120/150/220) | 7.5 G (180/230/330) | 9.5 G (0/110/160) | 13.6 G (0/300/350) | not a zen cpu, no boost |
vates | EPYC 7451 | Zen1 | server | 4.6 G (110/180/250) | 6.08 G (180/220/300) | 7.73 G (0/150/230) | 11.2 G (0/320/350) | no boost |
vates | Ryzen 5 7600 | Zen4 | desktop | 9.74 G (70/80/100) | 19.7 G (190/260/300) | 19.2G (0/110/140) | 33.9 G (0/310/350) | Olivier's pool, no boost |
nicols | EPYC 7443 | Zen3 | server | 3.38 G (?) | iperf3 | |||
nicols | EPYC 7443 | Zen3 | server | 2.78 G (?) | 4.44 G (?) | iperf2 | ||
nicols | EPYC 7502 | Zen2 | server | similar ^ | similar ^ | iperf2 | ||
JamesG | EPYC 7302p | Zen2 | server | 6.58 G (?) | iperf3 | |||
Ajmind-0 | EPYC 7313P | Zen3 | server | 7.6 G (?) | 10.3 G (?) | iperf3, debian11 | ||
Ajmind-0 | EPYC 7313P | Zen3 | server | 4.4 G (?) | 3.07G (?) | iperf3, debian12 | ||
vates | EPYC 9124 | Zen4 | server | 1.16 G (16/17/??â´) | 1.35 G (20/25/??â´) | N/A | N/A | !xcp-ng, Xen 4.18-rc + suse 15 |
vates | EPYC 9124 | Zen4 | server | 5.70 G (100/140/200) | 10.4 G (230/250/420) | 10.7 G (0/120/200) | 15.8 G (0/320/380) | no boost |
vates | Ryzen 9 5950x | Zen3 | desktop | 7.25 G (30/35/60) | 16.5 G (160/210/300) | 17.5 G (0/110/140) | 27.6 G (0/270/330) | no boost |
â´: xentop on this host shows 3200% on dom0 all the time, profiling does not seem to show anything actually using CPU, but may be related to the extremely poor performance
last updated: 2023-11-29 16:46
All help is welcome! For those of you who already provided tests I integrated in the table, feel free to not rerun tests, it looks like following the exact protocol and provided more data won't make much of a difference and I don't want to waste your time!
Thanks again to all of you for your insight and your patience, it looks like this is going to be a deep rabbit hole, I'll do my best to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible.
So, after our investigations, we were able to pinpoint the issue.
It seem to happen on most RHEL derivative distributions when migrating from 8.7 to 8.8. As suggested, the bug is in the kernel.
Starting with 4.18.0-466.el8
the patch: x86/idt: Annotate alloc_intr_gate() with __init is integrated and will create the issue. It is missing x86/xen: Split HVM vector callback setup and interrupt gate allocation that should have been integrated as well.
The migration to 8.8 will move you to 4.18.0-477.*
versions that are also raising this issue, that's what you reported.
We found that the 4.18.0-488
that can be found in CentOS 8 Stream integrates the missing patch, and do indeed work when installed manually.
Your report helped us identify and reproduce the issues. That allowed us to provide a callstack to Xen devs. Then Roger Pau MonnĂŠ found that it was this patch missing quickly, and we were able to find which versions of the kernel RPMs were integrating it and when the fix was integrated.
This means the issue was identified on RH side, and it is now a matter of having an updated kernel in derivative distributions like Rocky and Alma.
Could one of you try the kernel-alt
package? It is not meant for production as it is not fully tested and supported, but if a higher patch level of the 4.19 helps, it could give us more idea of what's happening.
EDIT: it should be updated to a new patch level soon-ish, so if current one does not fix, we should soon have another shot with a more recent update.
Can you clarify a few points:
It's just to get a better understanding of the setup.
On the guest tools and PV drivers side I'm not familiar with them myself on windows, maybe @dinhngtu could have some more insight?
Updated my machine at home, no issue so far.
We have 2 packages updated for the first 8.3 security update, a bit late to be part of the final ISO but they will be available at release time. For people willing to test them and provide feedback, see the announcement below.
A new XSA was published on September 24th 2024.
Intel published a microcode update on the September 10th 2024.
xen-*
:intel-microcode
:yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
yum update "xen-*" intel-microcode --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
xen
: xen-4.17.5-3.xcpng8.3intel_microcode
: intel-microcode-20240815-1.xcpng8.3Normal use and anything else you want to test.
Until 8.3 release.
Update published: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/09/27/september-2024-security-updates/
Thank you for the tests!
So if the initrd has been regenerated, it's likely the second part that fails, otherwise it is dracut, which is more of an issue.
@Andrew If I understand correctly that is ran after regenerating the initrd, but to be sure, can you check the date of your /boot/initrd-4.19.0+1.img
on this host?
A new XSA was published on September 24th 2024.
Intel published a microcode update on the September 10th 2024.
We also included an updated xcp-ng-release
for testing, althrough not related to security.
xen-*
:microcode_ctl
:xcp-ng-release
:yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
yum update "xen-*" microcode_ctl xcp-ng-release --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
xen
: 4.13.5-9.44.1.xcpng8.2microcode_ctl
: microcode_ctl-2.1-26.xs29.5.xcpng8.2xcp-ng-release
: xcp-ng-release-8.2.1-13Normal use and anything else you want to test.
~ 1 day because of security updates.
Update published https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2024/08/16/august-security-update/
Thank you all for testing
Thierry is on holidays for now
It is more likely due to the fact the ice driver is either coming from the intel-ice
or intel-ice-alt
which are both for the main kernel, the -alt one being a more up to date version, and not as the confusing name could imply, for the kernel-alt
.
The kernel-alt
is in any case a debugging and testing kernel and not meant for production, but your tests confirmed that this seems to fix the fan speed issue, now we can discuss internally about what to do.
A new XSA was published on August 14th 2024.
Intel published an updated microcode on August 13th 2024.
xen-*
:
microcode_ctl
: Security updates from Intel:
yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
yum update "xen-*" microcode_ctl --enablerepo=xcp-ng-candidates
reboot
The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.
xen
: 4.13.5-9.40.3.xcpng8.2microcode_ctl
: 2.1-26.xs29.3.xcpng8.2Normal use and anything else you want to test. Feedback about PCI pass-through is also welcome.
~ 2 day because of security updates.