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    XO Backup [NOBAK] for full backups

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      Not sure to understand. The potential XAPI side improvement is to allow a VM.snapshot command to add extra parameters, excluding some disks.

      You don't need to halt a VM to make a snapshot, it's completely unrelated. Maybe I'm missing something? 🤔

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      • marcungeschiktsM Offline
        marcungeschikts Vates 🪐 Project mgmt @bnerickson
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        Hi @bnerickson ,

        The xcp-ng part to Exclude VDI from snapshot has been done on XAPI project and can be seen in github https://github.com/xapi-project/xen-api/issues/4551 , but will be only embedded in xcp-ng 8.3 planned around 6 month (+/- 3).

        For the XO part, [Backup] Use ignore_vdis param when snapshotting, I will see with the XO Team and Olivier to synchronize the delivery

        benjamreis created this issue in xapi-project/xen-api

        closed [Feature proposal] Ignore some VDIs when snapshoting a VM #4551

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          bnerickson @marcungeschikts
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          @marcungeschikts Thanks, that's perfect!

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            MichaelCropper @bnerickson
            last edited by

            @julien-f @marcungeschikts @olivierlambert

            Commenting as I feel my recent error (https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/53557) is somehow related to this thread reading through the comments and history.

            cc. @Tristis-Oris

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              murarkavast
              last edited by

              Does the [NOBAK] need to be in the "Name" or "Description" section? This is not really mentioned anywhere.

              Thanks

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by olivierlambert

                It is in the official doc: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/backups.html#exclude-disks

                just edit the VM disk name

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                  markhewitt1978
                  last edited by

                  Found this by googling. Is there any news on being able to exclude disks at the snapshot level?

                  I have a couple of big SQL server VMs that are too big to snapshot, but the OS disk is relatively small and the attached disks are backed up by a seperate process anyway. So literally just need the OS image backing up.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by olivierlambert

                    See https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2022/11/18/xcp-ng-8-3-alpha/#✨-vm-snapshot-with-disk-exclusion

                    It's already used/supported by Xen Orchestra. If you want it for production, you'll need to wait for XCP-ng 8.3 to be available 🙂

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                      dave.opc @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert
                      Hi.
                      on VM i have 2 disks each 2Tb.
                      i created a continuous replication task with 96h timeout. It did take around 48 hours for full transfer but still ended with "task has been destroyed before completion".
                      can i mark 1 disk with [NOBAK] start a CR task so it copies only 1 disk. When this is finished i mark another disk with [NOBAK] and unmark the 1st one, so it makes a CR for second time and copies another disk. and when this is finished, i remove [NOBAK] completely so that both disks can be transfered delta?

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        Hmm I'm not sure about this but worth asking @florent

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                        • florentF Online
                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @dave.opc
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                          @dave.opc it should work . Add [NoBak] to one disk, transfer it, then remove the [NoBak] on the 2nd , restart the transfer => the first one will only transfer a delta , while the second disk will be transfered as full . If you put [NBak] on the first one for the second transfer, it will be handled as a disk deleted and will remove it on the replica

                          Note you will have the same issue if ( when ) you'll need to do a full backup later on, for example if there are any replication issue, or if you want to ensure your base copy is not corrupted later on

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                            dave.opc @florent
                            last edited by dave.opc

                            @florent
                            i just need to transfer that vm to another host so disks will be transfered 1by1. then when both disks are on destination, i will shutdown original vm, make a final CR and start vm on new location
                            so mine was a bit incorrect. on 2nd transfer both disks should be without NOBAK. thank you. will try.

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                              florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @dave.opc
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                              @dave.opc that's it

                              keep us updated on this

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