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      high-voltages @olivierlambert
      last edited by olivierlambert

      @olivierlambert
      Ok no proplem.

      Servertype: HP ProLiant DL380p Gen8
      CPU 2 x Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 0 @ 2.70GHz

      RAM 128GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC RAM

      Storage 8x 900GB SAS 10K Disks at P420i Raid Controller
      Configured as:
      1x 1,8 TB RAID 1+0 (4 Disks)
      1x 1,8 TB RAID 1+0 (4 Disks)

      [11:55 localhost ~]# pvs
        PV         VG                                                 Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree  
        /dev/sda3  VG_XenStorage-76d8320a-18bd-1b29-4040-caf0361ce575 lvm2 a--  <1.60t 777.70g
        /dev/sdb   VG_XenStorage-76d8320a-18bd-1b29-4040-caf0361ce575 lvm2 a--  <1.64t  <1.64t
      

      NIC 1xHP Ethernet 1Gb 4-port 331FLR Adapter (4x1Gbit/s)

      • Nic0 = Management
      • Nic1 + Nic2 = Bond for VM
      • Nic3 = Storage Network for Backup
        Actual active VMs 1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM
        1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM
        1x Win10 4x vCPU 16GB RAM
        1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM (temporary fresh installed for testing)
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        high-voltages @Affonso
        last edited by

        @Affonso thanks for this...

        doese the cpu boost the frequency on load or is the cpu permanetly on 2,7ghz

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        • olivierlambertO Online
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          What's the load average on your Dom0? What's the current resources allocated to it? (vCPUs and memory)? Might be interesting to check also the load on the SR (eg with iostat -x)

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            Affonso @high-voltages
            last edited by

            @high-voltages I believe turbo boost takes it up to 3.3GHz. The 2.7 is reduced workload

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            • bleaderB Offline
              bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
              last edited by

              In guests (even privileded guest like dom0), /proc/cpuinfo reports only what xen exposes to it, it generally is shown as fixed value.

              You can only get some more insight using xenpm when it actually shows something. I found it commonly having parts working or not depending on the CPU. On a xeon here, I get the same as you with get-cpufreq-para but you can have a look at get-cpufreq-average which is generally working, here you can see the frequency moving, on an idle machine it should be lower, and get higher with load.

              Hope this helps.

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                high-voltages
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                Thanks for the Feedback @ all

                I have tested some commands from above and discovered something

                a good working host system:

                iostat -x
                Linux 4.19.0+1 (xcpngautewe)    02/27/2024      _x86_64_        (8 CPU)
                
                avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
                           0.18    0.00    0.34    0.00    0.07   99.41
                
                Device:         rrqm/s   wrqm/s     r/s     w/s    rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz   await r_await w_await  svctm  %util
                nvme0n1           0.04     0.08    2.02    2.50   135.07   202.56   149.24     0.00    0.30    0.27    0.32   0.21   0.10
                sda               0.08     0.81    2.29    3.26   126.80   161.85   104.05     0.00    0.57    0.69    0.48   0.29   0.16
                dm-0              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.47     0.00   244.40     0.00    0.81    0.82    0.00   0.81   0.00
                dm-1              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.33     0.00   215.58     0.00    0.86    0.91    0.04   0.86   0.00
                dm-2              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    21.18     0.00    0.19    0.16    0.23   0.19   0.00
                dm-3              0.00     0.00    0.21    0.21    12.58    11.83   117.71     0.00    0.71    0.97    0.46   0.33   0.01
                tda               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.55    0.55    0.00   0.15   0.00
                tdb               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.55    0.55    0.00   0.15   0.00
                
                

                in comparison to the slow host system:

                iostat -x
                Linux 4.19.0+1 (localhost.localdomain)  02/27/2024      _x86_64_        (16 CPU)
                
                avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
                           0.29    0.00    0.53    0.02    0.03   99.13
                
                Device:         rrqm/s   wrqm/s     r/s     w/s    rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz   await r_await w_await  svctm  %util
                sda               0.14     0.91    6.54    7.67   308.70   284.24    83.43     0.10    7.15    3.08   10.62   2.96   4.21
                sdb               0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     1.33     0.00   254.01     0.00    1.61    1.61    7.25   1.60   0.00
                dm-0              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.54     0.00   253.31     0.00    1.78    1.73   34.50   1.76   0.00
                dm-5              0.00     0.00    0.20    0.17    20.11     2.27   119.98     0.00    4.71    0.91    9.28   2.41   0.09
                tdc               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.04     0.00    81.29     0.00   27.58   27.58    0.00   7.40   0.00
                sdc               0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     0.53     0.00   126.86     0.00    4.08    4.08    0.00   2.24   0.00
                dm-1              0.00     0.00    1.26    1.76    49.67    39.38    59.01     0.02    5.22    2.67    7.05   4.00   1.21
                dm-2              0.00     0.00    0.12    0.14    21.73    24.61   345.21     0.00    9.35    4.45   13.56   3.18   0.09
                dm-3              0.00     0.00    0.11    0.00     2.20     0.00    41.97     0.00    0.97    0.97    0.00   0.84   0.01
                dm-4              0.00     0.00    0.27    0.00    12.30     0.00    90.10     0.00    3.15    3.15    0.00   2.56   0.07
                tda               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    2.42    2.42    0.00   1.28   0.00
                tdb               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.60    0.60    0.00   0.23   0.00
                dm-6              0.00     0.00    0.11    0.10     5.00     4.04    87.11     0.00    6.31    2.74   10.09   3.63   0.08
                tdd               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.53    0.53    0.00   0.38   0.00
                dm-7              0.00     0.00    0.04    0.00     1.96     0.04    88.39     0.00    4.69    4.02   15.47   3.11   0.01
                tde               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.57    0.57    0.00   0.38   0.00
                dm-8              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    45.15     0.00   11.98    7.87   20.20  10.80   0.00
                dm-9              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    38.85     0.00   12.60    6.04   23.95  11.96   0.00
                dm-10             0.00     0.00    0.07    0.04     1.97     1.26    58.93     0.00   10.88    7.96   15.34   2.78   0.03
                dm-11             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    28.84     0.00   12.16   12.16    0.00   7.12   0.00
                dm-12             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    41.06     0.00   10.25   10.25    0.00   6.90   0.00
                dm-13             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    54.52     0.00    5.10    5.10    0.00   5.02   0.00
                dm-14             0.00     0.00    0.04    0.00     1.36     0.00    67.46     0.00    4.38    4.38    0.00   2.27   0.01
                dm-15             0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     0.12     0.00    48.19     0.00    7.59    7.59    0.00   6.14   0.00
                tdf               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00   48.68   48.68    0.00   7.17   0.00
                tdg               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00   30.45   30.45    0.00   4.98   0.00
                tdh               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    1.45    1.45    0.00   0.60   0.00
                

                the columns with the wait timings are much higher than the from the fast host
                that’s very strange from my point of view.

                further the CPU stat does not shows correct values because the fast host was at the time of the command under heavy load with about 80%.

                on the slow was some load but there the CPU is much stronger

                @bleader: the comand "get-cpufreq-average" gives no output at all.

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                  Affonso @high-voltages
                  last edited by Affonso

                  @high-voltages so nothing there hints you to a problem with the drive SDA on the slow "host"?

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                  • bleaderB Offline
                    bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @high-voltages
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                    @high-voltages you also can try xenpm start 10 to gather info for 10s and it will print a sumarry at the end, in my case it had each core average frequency, not sure you'll get it too, but you can give it a shot.

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                      flakpyro @bleader
                      last edited by flakpyro

                      @bleader I am running into the same issue on a pair of Lenovo SR630 V4s with Intel Xeon 6530P CPUs

                      [08:23 xcpng-dr-2 ~]# xenpm get-cpufreq-para
                      [CPU0] failed to get cpufreq parameter
                      

                      Playing with different workload profiles in the bios but so far the server seems to pretty aggressively clock itself down even while CPU intensive tasks like backups are running. I am of course not able to run something like xenpm set-scaling-governor performance either.

                      EDIT: The solution here is to get "Power/Performance Bias:" to OS Controlled in the servers BIOS. This restores functionality.

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                        bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @flakpyro
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                        @flakpyro oh, good to know, thanks for sharing this!

                        @poddingue this might be worth some investigation to document, but likely would need to gather similar settings for a set of vendors to make it relevant.

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                          Pilow @flakpyro
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                          @flakpyro said:

                          EDIT: The solution here is to get "Power/Performance Bias:" to OS Controlled in the servers BIOS. This restores functionality.

                          hey nice !
                          I did the modification on a slave server and I now have all informations (previously FAILED)
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                          it's an HPE DL380 Gen 11
                          modified in the iLO web ui, but then needed to reboot host

                          was previously on DYNAMIC POWER SAVINGS
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                            poddingue Vates 🪐 @Pilow
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                            On a Lenovo SR630 V4 it took Power/Performance Bias set to OS Controlled, and on an HPE DL380 Gen 11 it was the iLO Power Regulator moved off Dynamic Power Savings to OS Control Mode, with a host reboot.
                            Both then returned real values from xenpm get-cpufreq-para instead of the failure line.
                            @bleader is right that two vendors is not enough to document, so if your host works, could you post the vendor, the exact setting name, where it lives, and whether you needed a reboot? Dell, Supermicro and anything AMD are the obvious gaps.
                            I don't know whether the firmware is withholding p-state control outright or just not publishing the ACPI objects Xen looks for, so I would rather collect settings than write up a mechanism I can't back.

                            Thanks! 🙏

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