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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      Export from XOA to where? Your browser, a remote?

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      • akurzawaA Offline
        akurzawa
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        Export from xoa, Gb LAN, latest Chrome, Windows

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          cg @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert It's basically the same. I almost only export via scripts/xe.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            @akurzawa in this case, data is going from the SR to the host, then from the host to XOA, and finally from XOA to your PC with your browser. As you can see there is a lot of "hops" before being stored in your hard drive. And because it's a stream (there isn't any intermediate storage), it means it's going to the speed of the slower element (back pressure).

            In general, Xen Orchestra isn't the bottleneck itself because it just "passes" the stream. The most common bottleneck is in general the host itself. Using VM export with zstd can yield good results.

            @cg so the bottleneck can be from your SR to your host, the host itself, or your host to the storage destination.

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              cg
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              @olivierlambert: I doubt. It wouldn't explain why it's getting slower by time and while still using 100 % of once CPU core, the dataflow becomes constantly slower. It might be an IRQ/IO problem on hardware side, but that should be constant.
              I monitored network and storage: Both is mostly idling.
              It has 10/15k SAS RAID on both sides and 10G Ethernet and running only one export in the end.

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                I said "the host itself", which could be a hardware issue. Obviously the bottleneck is somewhere 😉

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                • ruskofdR Offline
                  ruskofd
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                  I agree with both of you, the problem is not on XO neither on hardware. I encountered this problem too, I tried many things (encryption off/on, no compression), same results. Like @cg said, the disks are idling also (99% idle)

                  I tried mostly tried on the hosts by itself, the templating system seems to work in the same way as export, and this was terribly slow for local storage in terms of throughput (25/30 Mbytes/s max on 15k SAS RAID 10). I put a bet on a XenServer core limitations/bottleneck (?), it could be some kind of a software limitation : https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/374896-exporting-vms-there-seems-to-be-a-speed-difference-between-xencenter-and-vm-export/

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by olivierlambert

                    Depends on what are we talking about:

                    • yes, export speed is often "software limited" because how a XVA is made
                    • I'm not aware about an issue regarding speed being reduced progressively during the transfer
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                    • akurzawaA Offline
                      akurzawa @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert maybe it's "generally" slow, but on the beginning the speed is higher due some buffering during file download

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                      • akurzawaA Offline
                        akurzawa
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                        😄 could it be truth?

                        "XenServer is notorious for their low export/import-speed, some claim that it is due to a "feature" that protects the mgmt-interface from being out of bandwidth"

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          There is no known code backing this claim.

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                            cg
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                            What you found is a pretty old and outdated thread, and conclusion is: It's not limited - and there's no real difference between 1 and 10GE. In case it's limited to protect mgmt-int, it would scale with 10GE, but in fact it doesn't.

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