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    XO Backup [NOBAK] for full backups

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    • julien-fJ Offline
      julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team
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      @normanghenderson I'm currently working on this feature, I had hoped to be able to release this for the September release but due to last minute issue it will likely be postponed for the end of October.

      Note that this will ship in the proxy first before making its way to regular backups.

      Best regards,

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        normanghenderson
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        @julien-f Thanks very much. Let me know when there is something to test.

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          normanghenderson @normanghenderson
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          @normanghenderson Hi Julien, Happy New Year. Just touching base on this? I just made an attempt with xo-server 5.73.0 xo-web 5.76.0 and got the usual SR_OPERATION_NOT_SUPPORTED due to the large disk.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            I think it's coming this release, isn't it @julien-f ?

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            • julien-fJ Offline
              julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team @normanghenderson
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              @normanghenderson Yep, it should be coming at the end of the month 🙂

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                metal

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                  normanghenderson @julien-f
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                  @julien-f Excellent, thank you!

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                    MrBaz
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                    Has this been implemented yet?
                    I've tried the [NOBAK] method, and the disk still gets cycled into the weekly VM backup.

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                      MrBaz @MrBaz
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                      Running the latest xen orchestra. Just finished our latest weekly backup. It still backed up the 1TB disk I had labeled as [NOBAK].

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                        Biggen @MrBaz
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                        @mrbaz I don't think its been implemented yet. Its coming from what I've read though.

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          It should be for this release, this time 😉 @julien-f is working on it!

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                            johnarvid @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert Has there been any progress on the VDI.snapshot? Read somewhere that there could be another branch for testing, but I did not find any.

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                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @johnarvid
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                              @johnarvid ah yes let me ping @julien-f about this, I don't remember exactly where are we on the VDI.snapshot front 🙂

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                                cnaumer @olivierlambert
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                                @olivierlambert Is there an Update to this? We would also like to use the [NOBAK] with the Full Backup feature of XO.

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                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  Ping @julien-f

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                                    julien-f Vates 🪐 Co-Founder XO Team @olivierlambert
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                                    Hey everyone, [NOBAK] should work for all types of backup: Rolling Snaphost, Disaster Recovery, Continuous Replication, Full Backup and Delta Backup.

                                    Unfortunately, due to the way the snapshot process is implemented in XCP-ng, ignored VDIs will still be snapshotted before being deleted, which takes time and space unnecessarily, but we have discussed with the XCP-ng team and they are working on improving this 🙂

                                    In the meantime, XO tries to work around this by temporary detaching these VDIs from the VM during the snapshot, but this only work when the VM is halted (see offline backup in the advanced settings of a backup job).

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                                      CptHyper @julien-f
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                                      Hi does the Backup job still create the Snapshot (and therefore required time and space) when not doing an offline backup or has this been improved by now ?

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                                        bnerickson @julien-f
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                                        @julien-f said in XO Backup [NOBAK] for full backups:

                                        Hey everyone, [NOBAK] should work for all types of backup: Rolling Snaphost, Disaster Recovery, Continuous Replication, Full Backup and Delta Backup.

                                        Unfortunately, due to the way the snapshot process is implemented in XCP-ng, ignored VDIs will still be snapshotted before being deleted, which takes time and space unnecessarily, but we have discussed with the XCP-ng team and they are working on improving this 🙂

                                        In the meantime, XO tries to work around this by temporary detaching these VDIs from the VM during the snapshot, but this only work when the VM is halted (see offline backup in the advanced settings of a backup job).

                                        Ironically enough in my case, the VM I have that has a passthrough disk attached to it (a VDI I would like to [NOBAK]) is the VM that is setup as the remote for the backup job in XOA. So shutting it down wouldn't exactly work 🙂 .

                                        That being said I'm sure I could implement a workaround, but is there a feature request or tracking ticket URL somewhere where I can track XCP-ng team's work on this issue?

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                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          I don't remember the status about this. I'm adding @marcungeschikts so he can tell us where it is in the backlog, when he's back from holidays 🙂

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                                            marcungeschikts Vates 🪐 Project mgmt @olivierlambert
                                            last edited by marcungeschikts

                                            ☑ Done in XO Release 5.71 delivered in May, this year.

                                            5.71Release Note

                                            Internal Ref. only NOBAK support for all backup modes with snapshots

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