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    [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM

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    • pdoniasP Offline
      pdonias Vates 🪐 XO Team @olivierlambert
      last edited by

      Might be related to this issue: https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/5033.

      pdonias created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

      closed [Console] Broken keyboard after AltGr has been pressed on Windows #5033

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Yup a test with XO Lite would be interesting until we get something fixed in XO 6 🙂

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by olivierlambert

          If you want to test quickly with XO Lite:

          wget https://lite.xen-orchestra.com/dist/ -O /opt/xensource/www/xolite.html
          

          Then, from a Chrome based browser (console won't work in Firefox until we release a fix in XCP-ng), go to your host URL:

          https://<HOST_IP>/xolite.html
          

          Then please report if your problem is solved.

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          • Tiki10T Offline
            Tiki10 @olivierlambert
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            olivierlambert

            Awesome. Thank you for the link.
            We will try it asap (Friday is perfect for testing :D).

            Tiki10

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by olivierlambert

              Note this is less than an alpha version, there's no CSS whatsoever, but you should be able to click on a running VM to access the console.

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              • Tiki10T Offline
                Tiki10 @olivierlambert
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                olivierlambert

                Just a question : I must DL this directly to my XenServer ?

                Regards

                Tiki10

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Yes, the wget command must be run on your host directly, logged in SSH as root (or from the console).

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                  • ForzaF Offline
                    Forza @olivierlambert
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                    olivierlambert said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                    Do you experience the issue on Windows? (or another OS?)

                    I am using Swedish keyboard and I experience the sticky AltGr issue on all consoles on both Windows and Linux guests. There is no problem in XCP-ng center.

                    Using TrueNAS, there is a webbased shell/console which works fine with AltGr, so I think the current problem is a limitation of something in XO. It is very frustrating because I need AltGr to type things like '|' and '@' or '$', which I need often.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      @S-Pam we already know that's a noVNC bug (the web VNC console we use in XO). It might be fixed in a more recent version, therefore the XO Lite test you should do 🙂

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                      • Tiki10T Offline
                        Tiki10 @olivierlambert
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                        olivierlambert

                        Done ! I'm aware that it's a beta.
                        At least, AltGr is working 😄
                        Not sure about what I can do with XO lite for the moment except manager a VM through it, but it's a step forward 😄
                        Thank You

                        Tiki10

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Okay so it means it's fixed in more recent noVNC versions 👍

                          XO 6 will get the latest version, and XO Lite is about to be released with minimal "theme" for the end of the month.

                          We hope to get first XO6 for the end of the year.

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                          • ForzaF Offline
                            Forza @olivierlambert
                            last edited by

                            olivierlambert said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                            Okay so it means it's fixed in more recent noVNC versions 👍

                            XO 6 will get the latest version, and XO Lite is about to be released with minimal "theme" for the end of the month.

                            We hope to get first XO6 for the end of the year.

                            XO 6 looks like it will be a nice release! Looking forward to it. Will you be writing something about it on the XOA blog?

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                              Yes we will (and we did!) See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/devblog-3-working-on-xo-6/

                              It's a BIG rework because we'll change the ENTIRE system, from the API to the UI, and various mechanisms.

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                                Forza @olivierlambert
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                                olivierlambert said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                                Yes we will (and we did!) See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/devblog-3-working-on-xo-6/

                                It's a BIG rework because we'll change the ENTIRE system, from the API to the UI, and various mechanisms.

                                I remember reading it. It would be nice with a progress update 🙂

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                                • Tiki10T Offline
                                  Tiki10 @Forza
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                                  Hello Everyone,

                                  Is XO6 available ?
                                  We are still running a XOA vm (licenced) but we don't use it because of AltGr problem.

                                  Regards,

                                  Vincent

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by

                                    I suggest you can use XO Lite in the meantime. XO 6 isn't available right now.

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                                      Squall124 @olivierlambert
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                                      olivierlambert said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                                      Okay so it means it's fixed in more recent noVNC versions 👍

                                      XO 6 will get the latest version, and XO Lite is about to be released with minimal "theme" for the end of the month.

                                      We hope to get first XO6 for the end of the year.

                                      First of all, I know I'm posting on an old topic and that's the point.

                                      I built a test environment with XCP-ng last month to get familiar with this solution as a possible replacement for VMWare and stambled on the AltGr issue (french keyboard).

                                      Asking google about it, I found this topic, and this post saying "XO Lite is about to be released" and "first XO6 for the end of the year" from... 2021.

                                      Here we are in 2024 and the deployment I made last month is under XOA 5.92.1, and the home page of XO Lite says "XO Lite is still a beta project. The first release will come very soon."
                                      And the bug about AltGr, acknowledged and solved in the xo lite test in 2021, is still there on the mainstream deployments.

                                      Any update on an usable console in the mainstream deployments ?
                                      Using a "hack" with the online version of xo lite, or deploying it manually on each host, and then having to play with different interfaces when you have to manage many hosts simply is a no-go. This bug really is a PITA when you have to use AltGr each time you need a #, a @, a pipe | in a VM console, brackets {[]} in config files, anti-slash \ for networking, etc...

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                                        Tiki_ @Squall124
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                                        Squall124

                                        Sadly, I'm totally agree.
                                        Fews months ago, we planned to move on vmware, and finally, we will not do it.
                                        So, we are still stuck with this altGr thing, so we are using XenCenter's console on each machine with Citrix Hypervisor, and we still pay a XOA licence for only one xcp-ng server (and some backup stuff from XOA)

                                        Regards,

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                                          Squall124 @olivierlambert
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                                          olivierlambert

                                          Squall124 said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                                          olivierlambert said in [XOA] Problem with AltGr and space bar while installing a VM:

                                          Okay so it means it's fixed in more recent noVNC versions 👍

                                          XO 6 will get the latest version, and XO Lite is about to be released with minimal "theme" for the end of the month.

                                          We hope to get first XO6 for the end of the year.

                                          First of all, I know I'm posting on an old topic and that's the point.

                                          I built a test environment with XCP-ng last month to get familiar with this solution as a possible replacement for VMWare and stambled on the AltGr issue (french keyboard).

                                          Asking google about it, I found this topic, and this post saying "XO Lite is about to be released" and "first XO6 for the end of the year" from... 2021.

                                          Here we are in 2024 and the deployment I made last month is under XOA 5.92.1, and the home page of XO Lite says "XO Lite is still a beta project. The first release will come very soon."
                                          And the bug about AltGr, acknowledged and solved in the xo lite test in 2021, is still there on the mainstream deployments.

                                          Any update on an usable console in the mainstream deployments ?
                                          Using a "hack" with the online version of xo lite, or deploying it manually on each host, and then having to play with different interfaces when you have to manage many hosts simply is a no-go. This bug really is a PITA when you have to use AltGr each time you need a #, a @, a pipe | in a VM console, brackets {[]} in config files, anti-slash \ for networking, etc...

                                          Poke

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                            Hi,

                                            It's not possible to easily upgrade XO 5 with a more recent version of the console, you'll have to wait for XO 6. If you read our blog posts lately, you can see we are doing progress. I'll see if I can get the new consoles sooner than later.

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