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    Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.

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      Andreas @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert Yes, but the problem remains
      how can you troubleshoot this or is it in xcp-ng?

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        You should probably start to compare XAPI record for the VM, before and after the migration, in case anything changed.

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          Andreas @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert XAPI records this is a bit beyond my knowledge.
          I tried to make a brand new VM Ubuntu 20.04 server
          just to see so it was not the virtual machine it was wrong in but
          unfortunately the same result again.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            xe vm-param-list uuid=<VM UUID>. Compare the output before and after migration.

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              Andreas @olivierlambert
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              @olivierlambert
              Okay find a value that is different
              the test is done on the new VM which has 6 GIB in Ram
              This is the value before migration
              memory-target ( RO): 0
              after migration
              memory-target ( RO): 6442450944
              and after reboot of VM
              memory-target ( RO): 0

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by olivierlambert

                That's weird, despite the fact your VM is set to static, right? (same dynamic min, max and static max?)

                edit: is it the only diff?

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                  Andreas @olivierlambert
                  last edited by Andreas

                  @olivierlambert
                  no this change from this
                  memory-actual ( RO): 6442455040
                  to this
                  memory-actual ( RO): 6442450944

                  and its below but they probably have no significance
                  start-time
                  console-uuids
                  dom-id
                  VCPUs-utilisation
                  guest-metrics-last-updated
                  b2471d1e-2d28-44c6-af0e-c555e9ecf100-image.png

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    That's weird. We'll see if we can reproduce this. @Darkbeldin will try when he can (probably in January)

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                      Andreas @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert
                      Okay thanks
                      and happy New Year 🙂

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        You too!

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                          Andreas @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert
                          Sorry to disturb you.
                          Okay just to verify that there was nothing wrong with the physical servers.
                          So I took 2 identical PCs and installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2
                          then install a virtual machine with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                          Install redis and ran the test
                          then migrated VM to other pc and ran the test and the speed was half.
                          Took out the result before and after attached the files.

                          1.Before migration.txt
                          2.After migration.txt

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                          • DarkbeldinD Offline
                            Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                            @andreas Hi Andreas,

                            After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                            I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

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                              Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                              @darkbeldin
                              Okay Thanks

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                                Forza @Darkbeldin
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                                @darkbeldin said in Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.:

                                @andreas Hi Andreas,

                                After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                                I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

                                This seems quite an important find. Please let is know how this goes.

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                                • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                  Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
                                  last edited by Darkbeldin

                                  @andreas

                                  So I was doing some testing before reporting to dev team and I have a behavior I will like you to check if you reproduce:
                                  my clean VM report like this

                                  yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                  SET: 156152.41 requests per second
                                  GET: 168180.28 requests per second
                                  LPUSH: 156421.08 requests per second
                                  LPOP: 159757.17 requests per second
                                  

                                  That's my reference, when I migrate to another host it report like this:

                                  yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                  SET: 55718.07 requests per second
                                  GET: 58683.72 requests per second
                                  LPUSH: 55742.91 requests per second
                                  LPOP: 54775.01 requests per second
                                  

                                  If I reboot it goes back to original reporting but if I migrate back to the original host without rebooting it report like that.

                                  redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                  SET: 138092.94 requests per second
                                  GET: 153151.08 requests per second
                                  LPUSH: 147004.78 requests per second
                                  LPOP: 148115.23 requests per second
                                  

                                  So not perfect as reference but way better than after migration.
                                  As I want to be thorough before reporting could you check if you reproduce that?
                                  So:

                                  • migrate to another host
                                  • make the test
                                  • migrate back to the original host
                                  • make the test

                                  Thanks for your help.

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                                    Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                    @darkbeldin
                                    Hello
                                    I installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2 on 2 identical PCs name host1 and host2 then updated to latest "yum update"
                                    then install a virtual machine ubuntu 20.04 with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                                    Install redis-server
                                    Then I did the test
                                    on host1
                                    root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                    SET: 243368.20 requests per second
                                    GET: 261917.23 requests per second
                                    LPUSH: 257499.67 requests per second
                                    LPOP: 264830.50 requests per second

                                    Then migrate to host2 got lower speed
                                    root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                    SET: 92055.60 requests per second
                                    GET: 95297.09 requests per second
                                    LPUSH: 95570.31 requests per second
                                    LPOP: 95401.64 requests per second

                                    Then back to host1 got almost the same speed
                                    root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                    SET: 238010.23 requests per second
                                    GET: 253100.48 requests per second
                                    LPUSH: 259100.92 requests per second
                                    LPOP: 259134.50 requests per second

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                                    • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                      Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                      @andreas Ok so migrating back to the original host give us a small perf issue but clearly not what we see when we migrate to another host.
                                      I will report it like that thanks for the test Andreas 😉

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                                        Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                        @darkbeldin
                                        Okay
                                        Did more tests
                                        Started on host1 normal speed
                                        migrate to host2
                                        make the test got lower speed
                                        restart vm
                                        make the test on host2
                                        Got normal speed
                                        migrate to host1
                                        make the test got lower speed
                                        migrate to host2 normal speed

                                        so it seems to be something that happens after first migrating to another host

                                        I have a third exactly the same pc i should test install on it
                                        and see what happens if i move vm to host3 after moving to host2
                                        but I have to do it tomorrow, I do not have time now.

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                                        • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                          Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                          @andreas Yes i tested it no need to do it, migrating to a third hosts result to half perf has first migration.

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                                          • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                            Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                            @andreas Ok so after discussing it with Dev team the issue has been identified.
                                            The trouble is linked to TSC management in the VM.
                                            You can work around the issue by setting the VM:

                                            xe vm-param-set uuid=<VM_UUID> platform:tsc_mode=2
                                            

                                            But be aware we can not recommend this settings to go to a production VM.
                                            TSC clock won't be emulated at all if you enable this settings. So you might have some weird time behavior during migration.

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