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    Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.

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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      xe vm-param-list uuid=<VM UUID>. Compare the output before and after migration.

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        Andreas @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert
        Okay find a value that is different
        the test is done on the new VM which has 6 GIB in Ram
        This is the value before migration
        memory-target ( RO): 0
        after migration
        memory-target ( RO): 6442450944
        and after reboot of VM
        memory-target ( RO): 0

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by olivierlambert

          That's weird, despite the fact your VM is set to static, right? (same dynamic min, max and static max?)

          edit: is it the only diff?

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            Andreas @olivierlambert
            last edited by Andreas

            @olivierlambert
            no this change from this
            memory-actual ( RO): 6442455040
            to this
            memory-actual ( RO): 6442450944

            and its below but they probably have no significance
            start-time
            console-uuids
            dom-id
            VCPUs-utilisation
            guest-metrics-last-updated
            b2471d1e-2d28-44c6-af0e-c555e9ecf100-image.png

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              That's weird. We'll see if we can reproduce this. @Darkbeldin will try when he can (probably in January)

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                Andreas @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert
                Okay thanks
                and happy New Year 🙂

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  You too!

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                    Andreas @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert
                    Sorry to disturb you.
                    Okay just to verify that there was nothing wrong with the physical servers.
                    So I took 2 identical PCs and installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2
                    then install a virtual machine with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                    Install redis and ran the test
                    then migrated VM to other pc and ran the test and the speed was half.
                    Took out the result before and after attached the files.

                    1.Before migration.txt
                    2.After migration.txt

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                    • DarkbeldinD Offline
                      Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                      @andreas Hi Andreas,

                      After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                      I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

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                        Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                        @darkbeldin
                        Okay Thanks

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                          Forza @Darkbeldin
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                          @darkbeldin said in Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.:

                          @andreas Hi Andreas,

                          After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                          I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

                          This seems quite an important find. Please let is know how this goes.

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                          • DarkbeldinD Offline
                            Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
                            last edited by Darkbeldin

                            @andreas

                            So I was doing some testing before reporting to dev team and I have a behavior I will like you to check if you reproduce:
                            my clean VM report like this

                            yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                            SET: 156152.41 requests per second
                            GET: 168180.28 requests per second
                            LPUSH: 156421.08 requests per second
                            LPOP: 159757.17 requests per second
                            

                            That's my reference, when I migrate to another host it report like this:

                            yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                            SET: 55718.07 requests per second
                            GET: 58683.72 requests per second
                            LPUSH: 55742.91 requests per second
                            LPOP: 54775.01 requests per second
                            

                            If I reboot it goes back to original reporting but if I migrate back to the original host without rebooting it report like that.

                            redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                            SET: 138092.94 requests per second
                            GET: 153151.08 requests per second
                            LPUSH: 147004.78 requests per second
                            LPOP: 148115.23 requests per second
                            

                            So not perfect as reference but way better than after migration.
                            As I want to be thorough before reporting could you check if you reproduce that?
                            So:

                            • migrate to another host
                            • make the test
                            • migrate back to the original host
                            • make the test

                            Thanks for your help.

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                              Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                              @darkbeldin
                              Hello
                              I installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2 on 2 identical PCs name host1 and host2 then updated to latest "yum update"
                              then install a virtual machine ubuntu 20.04 with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                              Install redis-server
                              Then I did the test
                              on host1
                              root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 243368.20 requests per second
                              GET: 261917.23 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 257499.67 requests per second
                              LPOP: 264830.50 requests per second

                              Then migrate to host2 got lower speed
                              root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 92055.60 requests per second
                              GET: 95297.09 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 95570.31 requests per second
                              LPOP: 95401.64 requests per second

                              Then back to host1 got almost the same speed
                              root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 238010.23 requests per second
                              GET: 253100.48 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 259100.92 requests per second
                              LPOP: 259134.50 requests per second

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                              • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                @andreas Ok so migrating back to the original host give us a small perf issue but clearly not what we see when we migrate to another host.
                                I will report it like that thanks for the test Andreas 😉

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                                  Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                  @darkbeldin
                                  Okay
                                  Did more tests
                                  Started on host1 normal speed
                                  migrate to host2
                                  make the test got lower speed
                                  restart vm
                                  make the test on host2
                                  Got normal speed
                                  migrate to host1
                                  make the test got lower speed
                                  migrate to host2 normal speed

                                  so it seems to be something that happens after first migrating to another host

                                  I have a third exactly the same pc i should test install on it
                                  and see what happens if i move vm to host3 after moving to host2
                                  but I have to do it tomorrow, I do not have time now.

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                                  • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                    Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                    @andreas Yes i tested it no need to do it, migrating to a third hosts result to half perf has first migration.

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                                    • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                      Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                      @andreas Ok so after discussing it with Dev team the issue has been identified.
                                      The trouble is linked to TSC management in the VM.
                                      You can work around the issue by setting the VM:

                                      xe vm-param-set uuid=<VM_UUID> platform:tsc_mode=2
                                      

                                      But be aware we can not recommend this settings to go to a production VM.
                                      TSC clock won't be emulated at all if you enable this settings. So you might have some weird time behavior during migration.

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                                        Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                        @darkbeldin Okay thanks
                                        I did test this and it worked.

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                                        • TheNorthernLightT Offline
                                          TheNorthernLight @Darkbeldin
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                                          @darkbeldin Hello, So for those of us in production, does this problem affect rolling pool upgrades?

                                          If so, how do we fix this and update our pools without needing to explicitly shutdown VMs in the pool?

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                                            Andrew Top contributor @Darkbeldin
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                                            @darkbeldin Is memory access actually slower or is a timing issue with the statistics?

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