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    Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.

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      Andreas @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert XAPI records this is a bit beyond my knowledge.
      I tried to make a brand new VM Ubuntu 20.04 server
      just to see so it was not the virtual machine it was wrong in but
      unfortunately the same result again.

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        xe vm-param-list uuid=<VM UUID>. Compare the output before and after migration.

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          Andreas @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert
          Okay find a value that is different
          the test is done on the new VM which has 6 GIB in Ram
          This is the value before migration
          memory-target ( RO): 0
          after migration
          memory-target ( RO): 6442450944
          and after reboot of VM
          memory-target ( RO): 0

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by olivierlambert

            That's weird, despite the fact your VM is set to static, right? (same dynamic min, max and static max?)

            edit: is it the only diff?

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              Andreas @olivierlambert
              last edited by Andreas

              @olivierlambert
              no this change from this
              memory-actual ( RO): 6442455040
              to this
              memory-actual ( RO): 6442450944

              and its below but they probably have no significance
              start-time
              console-uuids
              dom-id
              VCPUs-utilisation
              guest-metrics-last-updated
              b2471d1e-2d28-44c6-af0e-c555e9ecf100-image.png

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              • olivierlambertO Offline
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                last edited by

                That's weird. We'll see if we can reproduce this. @Darkbeldin will try when he can (probably in January)

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                  Andreas @olivierlambert
                  last edited by

                  @olivierlambert
                  Okay thanks
                  and happy New Year 🙂

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    You too!

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                      Andreas @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert
                      Sorry to disturb you.
                      Okay just to verify that there was nothing wrong with the physical servers.
                      So I took 2 identical PCs and installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2
                      then install a virtual machine with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                      Install redis and ran the test
                      then migrated VM to other pc and ran the test and the speed was half.
                      Took out the result before and after attached the files.

                      1.Before migration.txt
                      2.After migration.txt

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                      • DarkbeldinD Offline
                        Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
                        last edited by

                        @andreas Hi Andreas,

                        After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                        I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

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                          Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                          @darkbeldin
                          Okay Thanks

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                            Forza @Darkbeldin
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                            @darkbeldin said in Memory in vm half as fast after migration of vm.:

                            @andreas Hi Andreas,

                            After testing it on my side i can confirm i reproduce the issue.
                            I will discuss it at dev level and get back to you.

                            This seems quite an important find. Please let is know how this goes.

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                            • DarkbeldinD Offline
                              Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
                              last edited by Darkbeldin

                              @andreas

                              So I was doing some testing before reporting to dev team and I have a behavior I will like you to check if you reproduce:
                              my clean VM report like this

                              yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 156152.41 requests per second
                              GET: 168180.28 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 156421.08 requests per second
                              LPOP: 159757.17 requests per second
                              

                              That's my reference, when I migrate to another host it report like this:

                              yachy@ubuntuyachy:~$ redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 55718.07 requests per second
                              GET: 58683.72 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 55742.91 requests per second
                              LPOP: 54775.01 requests per second
                              

                              If I reboot it goes back to original reporting but if I migrate back to the original host without rebooting it report like that.

                              redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                              SET: 138092.94 requests per second
                              GET: 153151.08 requests per second
                              LPUSH: 147004.78 requests per second
                              LPOP: 148115.23 requests per second
                              

                              So not perfect as reference but way better than after migration.
                              As I want to be thorough before reporting could you check if you reproduce that?
                              So:

                              • migrate to another host
                              • make the test
                              • migrate back to the original host
                              • make the test

                              Thanks for your help.

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                                Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                @darkbeldin
                                Hello
                                I installed clean new xcp-ng 8.2 on 2 identical PCs name host1 and host2 then updated to latest "yum update"
                                then install a virtual machine ubuntu 20.04 with static 4GB of memory and with guest tools.
                                Install redis-server
                                Then I did the test
                                on host1
                                root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                SET: 243368.20 requests per second
                                GET: 261917.23 requests per second
                                LPUSH: 257499.67 requests per second
                                LPOP: 264830.50 requests per second

                                Then migrate to host2 got lower speed
                                root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                SET: 92055.60 requests per second
                                GET: 95297.09 requests per second
                                LPUSH: 95570.31 requests per second
                                LPOP: 95401.64 requests per second

                                Then back to host1 got almost the same speed
                                root@ramtest:/home/andreas# redis-benchmark -r 1000000 -n 2000000 -t get,set,lpush,lpop -P 16 -q
                                SET: 238010.23 requests per second
                                GET: 253100.48 requests per second
                                LPUSH: 259100.92 requests per second
                                LPOP: 259134.50 requests per second

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                                • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                  Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                  @andreas Ok so migrating back to the original host give us a small perf issue but clearly not what we see when we migrate to another host.
                                  I will report it like that thanks for the test Andreas 😉

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                                    Andreas @Darkbeldin
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                                    @darkbeldin
                                    Okay
                                    Did more tests
                                    Started on host1 normal speed
                                    migrate to host2
                                    make the test got lower speed
                                    restart vm
                                    make the test on host2
                                    Got normal speed
                                    migrate to host1
                                    make the test got lower speed
                                    migrate to host2 normal speed

                                    so it seems to be something that happens after first migrating to another host

                                    I have a third exactly the same pc i should test install on it
                                    and see what happens if i move vm to host3 after moving to host2
                                    but I have to do it tomorrow, I do not have time now.

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                                    • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                      Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
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                                      @andreas Yes i tested it no need to do it, migrating to a third hosts result to half perf has first migration.

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                                      • DarkbeldinD Offline
                                        Darkbeldin Vates 🪐 Pro Support Team @Andreas
                                        last edited by

                                        @andreas Ok so after discussing it with Dev team the issue has been identified.
                                        The trouble is linked to TSC management in the VM.
                                        You can work around the issue by setting the VM:

                                        xe vm-param-set uuid=<VM_UUID> platform:tsc_mode=2
                                        

                                        But be aware we can not recommend this settings to go to a production VM.
                                        TSC clock won't be emulated at all if you enable this settings. So you might have some weird time behavior during migration.

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                                          Andreas @Darkbeldin
                                          last edited by

                                          @darkbeldin Okay thanks
                                          I did test this and it worked.

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                                          • TheNorthernLightT Offline
                                            TheNorthernLight @Darkbeldin
                                            last edited by

                                            @darkbeldin Hello, So for those of us in production, does this problem affect rolling pool upgrades?

                                            If so, how do we fix this and update our pools without needing to explicitly shutdown VMs in the pool?

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