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    • SwenS Offline
      Swen @abufrejoval
      last edited by

      @abufrejoval I am using dd on Ubuntu20 VMs on 3 ProLiant D360 servers with SSDs. I mounted 1 SSD directly to XCP-ng and 3 to linstor on each server. When I do a

      dd if=/dev/zero of=benchfile bs=4k count=2000000 && sync; rm benchfile
      

      on a VM using local storage I get around 185MB/s

      when I do the same on 1 VM on linstor storage I get around 125MB/s

      but when I do the test on 2 VM on linstor storage on the same XCP-ng host I get around 60MB/s each.

      Do me it looks like the NIC is the bottleneck, but please correct me if I am wrong.

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      • SwenS Offline
        Swen @Swen
        last edited by

        @ronan-a another thing I found is that it linstor occupies more storage than expected. I created the sr with option 'thin'. I created 2 VMs each with 50GB disk. XCP-ng cente ris shoing me

        238.7 GB used of 2.6 TB total (150 GB allocated)
        

        I would not expected that! I would expected less than 100 GB used and allocated.

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        • ronan-aR Offline
          ronan-a Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Swen
          last edited by

          @Swen Could you list the VDIs of your linstor SR please? 🙂

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          • SwenS Offline
            Swen @ronan-a
            last edited by Swen

            @ronan-a sure, do you mean the output of xe vdi-list?

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            • ronan-aR Offline
              ronan-a Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Swen
              last edited by

              @Swen Yes, because this allocation value is indeed surprising.

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              • SwenS Offline
                Swen @ronan-a
                last edited by

                @ronan-a

                [16:30 xcp-test1 ~]# xe vdi-list sr-uuid=77e5097a-c971-34e4-9506-7386a1e640b8
                uuid ( RO)                : 23876ae4-27b3-4f2f-8c8b-eb623b2dc2e4
                          name-label ( RW): base copy
                    name-description ( RW):
                             sr-uuid ( RO): 77e5097a-c971-34e4-9506-7386a1e640b8
                        virtual-size ( RO): 53687091200
                            sharable ( RO): false
                           read-only ( RO): true
                
                
                uuid ( RO)                : 3a2ab3da-5507-4c7e-aa07-497c65b18ec1
                          name-label ( RW): ubuntu20-linstor 0
                    name-description ( RW): Created by template provisioner
                             sr-uuid ( RO): 77e5097a-c971-34e4-9506-7386a1e640b8
                        virtual-size ( RO): 53687091200
                            sharable ( RO): false
                           read-only ( RO): false
                
                
                uuid ( RO)                : 13a8fa52-9aa3-490b-86e0-eedb101128f9
                          name-label ( RW): ubuntu20-linstor 0
                    name-description ( RW): Created by template provisioner
                             sr-uuid ( RO): 77e5097a-c971-34e4-9506-7386a1e640b8
                        virtual-size ( RO): 53687091200
                            sharable ( RO): false
                           read-only ( RO): false
                

                ok, the third vdi makes sense, cause I used storage-level fast disk clone to duplicate the VM. This explains the allocated value I guess, but not the used one.

                Did you see my other question? Are you aware of any NIC constraints regarding throughput?

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                • SwenS Offline
                  Swen @ronan-a
                  last edited by

                  @ronan-a Wait a sec, maybe I found the root cause. I created a snapshot of a VM and deleted it. It created another base copy vdi and allocated space is now 200GB. MAybe I need to wait for the celanup job to take care of this?

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                  • ronan-aR Offline
                    ronan-a Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Swen
                    last edited by ronan-a

                    @Swen The 150GiB are related to the base copy VDI yes. 😉
                    Of course this value is just the maximum amount of data used because you use the thin LVM plugin. (It's not the real used data.)

                    Regarding NIC, I didn't encounter any problems during my tests. The best way to measure the DRBD performance is to use fio directly in a VM and also on the host with a DRBD volume.

                    The difference between local storage and DRBD is not a surprise:

                    • DRBD must sync the data between nodes
                    • DRBD is on top of LVM
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                      abufrejoval Top contributor @Swen
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                      @Swen
                      Writing zeros should result in nothing written with thin allocation (or dedup and compression): that's why I am hesitant to use /dev/zero as a source.

                      Of course /dev/random could require to much of an overhead, depending on the quality and implementation which is why I like to use fio: a bit of initial effort to know and understand the tool, but much better control, especially when it comes to dealing with an OS that tries to be smart.

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                      • SwenS Offline
                        Swen @ronan-a
                        last edited by

                        @ronan-a did you use 10Gbit interfaces for linstor traffic? I am aware that there is a difference between local storage and DRBD, but if this difference is that high, linstor is not really interesting for high performance workloads. I need to be sure that the root cause it not related to my setup.

                        @ronan-a @abufrejoval which exact fio params are you using to test your environment and can you copy some numbers, so we can compare them?

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by olivierlambert

                          We mostly use those displayed in this blog post: https://smcleod.net/tech/2016/04/29/benchmarking-io/

                          edit: depending on the storage, iodepth can be increased.

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                            abufrejoval Top contributor @Swen
                            last edited by

                            @Swen

                            There is obviously tons of variations....

                            I've used this fio file a lot to quickly gain an understanding of how a bit of storage performs.

                            Basically it only uses a small 100MB file, but tells the OS to avoid buffering and then goes over that with a mix of reads and writes, mostly transitioning between block size, essentially going from super random to almost sequential in a single run.

                            It's helped me find issues with Gluster, identify network bandwidth issues or even find deteriorated RAIDs with a bad BBU. Creates the test file in the working directiory unless changed.

                            [global]
                            filename=fio.file
                            ioengine=libaio
                            rw=randrw
                            size=100m
                            norandommap
                            direct=1
                            iodepth=1
                            time_based
                            runtime=10
                            [B512]
                            bs=512
                            stonewall
                            [B1k]
                            bs=1k
                            stonewall
                            [B2k]
                            bs=2k
                            stonewall
                            [b4k]
                            bs=4k
                            stonewall
                            [b8k]
                            bs=8k
                            stonewall
                            [b16k]
                            bs=16k
                            stonewall
                            [b32k]
                            bs=32k
                            [b64k]
                            bs=64k
                            stonewall
                            [b512k]
                            bs=512k
                            stonewall
                            [b1m]
                            bs=1m
                            stonewall
                            

                            Numbers: It should approach the network bandwidth towards the end (potentially divided by write amplification).

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                            • dumarjoD Offline
                              dumarjo @ronan-a
                              last edited by

                              @ronan-a Hi,

                              I tested your branch and now the new added hosts to the pool are now attached to the XOSTOR. This is nice !

                              I have looked at the code, but I'm not sure if in the current state of your branch we can add a disk on the new host and update the replication ? I think not... but just to be sure.

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                              • ronan-aR Offline
                                ronan-a Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @dumarjo
                                last edited by

                                @dumarjo linstor resource-group modify --place-count=X should be enough to update the replication. 🙂 I'm not sure to add a command in the plugin now (but probably yes for XOA integration).

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                                • Maelstrom96M Offline
                                  Maelstrom96 @ronan-a
                                  last edited by

                                  @ronan-a said in XOSTOR hyperconvergence preview:

                                  For some VMs that have built-in software replication/HA, like DBs, it might be prefered to have replication=1 set for the VDI.

                                  We can authorize this behavior without having other SRs. It would suffice to pass a replication parameter for this particular VDI when it is created. So thank you for this feedback. I think we must implement this use case for the future.

                                  @ronan-a Have anything been done regarding this feature? I scanned the thread, but I couldn't really find anything related to a new VDI option.

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by

                                    It might be done in the future, but that's not the priority for a v1 🙂

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                                    • Maelstrom96M Offline
                                      Maelstrom96 @olivierlambert
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivierlambert
                                      I just checked the sm repository, and it looks like it wouldn't be that complicated to add a new sm-config and pass it down to the volume creation. Do you accept PR/Contributions on that repository? We're really interested in this feature and I think I can take the time to write the code to handle this.

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                        last edited by

                                        The problem will be about to compute the available space if you have different replication number.

                                        But in any cases, contributions are always welcome, we'll discuss details in PR.

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                                        • G Offline
                                          geoffbland
                                          last edited by geoffbland

                                          I am trying this on pool with 5 hosts. Each host has a 4TB HDD installed that I am using for this.

                                          Following the instructions here I download the installer and run it with ./install --disks /dev/sda --force - this runs through and no errors are shown but right at the end it displays:

                                           Volume group "linstor_group" not found
                                            Cannot process volume group linstor_group
                                            Physical volume "/dev/sda" successfully created.
                                            Volume group "linstor_group" successfully created
                                          

                                          But then checking the disk I don't see the expected partitions:

                                          [09:12 XCPNG01 ~]# lsblk
                                          ...
                                          sda                               8:0    0   3.7T  0 disk
                                          <nothing here>
                                          ...
                                          

                                          Versions

                                          [09:34 XCPNG01 ~]# uname -a
                                          Linux XCPNG01 4.19.0+1 #1 SMP Thu Jan 13 12:55:45 CET 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                                          
                                          [09:28 XCPNG01 ~]# rpm -qa | grep -E "^(sm|xha)-.*linstor.*"
                                          sm-2.30.6-1.1.0.linstor.1.xcpng8.2.x86_64
                                          xha-10.1.0-2.2.0.linstor.1.xcpng8.2.x86_64
                                          

                                          I should mention that this disk was previously mounted as an SR but is no longer, and also was part of a glusterfs store but is no longer.

                                          If I run ./install --disks /dev/sda --force a second time it obviously has not much to do as it has installed everything but now I get a slightly different error:

                                          Package python-linstor-1.12.0-1.noarch already installed and latest version
                                          Nothing to do
                                            VG            #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize  VFree
                                            linstor_group   1   0   0 wz--n- <3.64t <3.64t
                                            Volume group "linstor_group" successfully removed
                                            Volume group "sda" not found
                                            Cannot process volume group sda
                                          Failed to execute vgremove properly.
                                          

                                          What should I do to work out what the problem is?

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                                            geoffbland @geoffbland
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                                            Just reading through the install script, if thin provisioning is not used (i.e thick provisioning is) then the volume group linstor_group will get created but no logical volume is created:

                                                if subprocess.call(['vgcreate', LINSTOR_GROUP] + disks):
                                                    print('Failed to execute vgcreate properly.')
                                                    return os.EX_SOFTWARE
                                            
                                                if thin and subprocess.call(['lvcreate', '-l', '100%FREE', '-T', '{}/thin_device'.format(LINSTOR_GROUP)]):
                                                    print('Failed to create thin device properly.')
                                                    return os.EX_SOFTWARE
                                            

                                            So are the installation instructions incorrect? Step 3 where it states to check the config before proceeding it states to use lsblk to check that the LVM logical volumes are created - but it looks to me like this does not occur unless thin provisioning is used?

                                            I can see that the volume group has been created as you would expect by looking at the install script.

                                            
                                            [08:41 XCPNG01 ~]# pvscan
                                              ...
                                              PV /dev/sda         VG linstor_group                                        lvm2 [<3.64 TiB / <3.64 TiB free]
                                              ...
                                            
                                            
                                            [08:35 XCPNG01 ~]# vgdisplay
                                              ...
                                              --- Volume group ---
                                              VG Name               linstor_group
                                              System ID
                                              Format                lvm2
                                              Metadata Areas        1
                                              Metadata Sequence No  1
                                              VG Access             read/write
                                              VG Status             resizable
                                              MAX LV                0
                                              Cur LV                0
                                              Open LV               0
                                              Max PV                0
                                              Cur PV                1
                                              Act PV                1
                                              VG Size               <3.64 TiB
                                              PE Size               4.00 MiB
                                              Total PE              953861
                                              Alloc PE / Size       0 / 0
                                              Free  PE / Size       953861 / <3.64 TiB
                                              VG UUID               uidJ13-juc7-2cm0-NnkV-wdhA-4fNm-HAWrgh
                                            

                                            Am I misunderstanding the instructions somehow or missing something?

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