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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
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      @KPS the nbd part is during the transfer , this part of the log is during the merge

      there can be a merge before transfer, and another after

      Is it easy to possible for you to a new branch based on master ? I can make a quik branch with more informations on the nbd state before my holidays

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        KPS Top contributor @florent
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        @florent
        Thats strange... There is nothing else in the logs. The first entry after starting the job is the "mount-entry"...

        I can immediately update, if you want to push this prior to the holiday, but - to be fair: This is currently just a proof of concept for a new installation in 2023 - so - no stress.

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        • florentF Offline
          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
          last edited by

          @KPS it's an easy win, so here is your christmas present
          https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/6596
          the message should show if nbd is really activated or not in XO, if there is a nbd enabled network on the host , and if the connection is successfull

          fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

          closed feat(@xen-orchestra/backups): more information on nbd backups #6596

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          • K Offline
            KPS Top contributor @florent
            last edited by

            @florent
            Hi Florent!
            I did just install the patch...
            Updated version 5.107.5 / 5.109.0

            ...but still nothing in the logs about NBD. I have no idea, what I did wrong.
            The log does still only contain the information about the merge and the mounts.

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            • K Offline
              KPS Top contributor @KPS
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              @florent
              Please do not invest any time in my debugging. I fist have to really understand, why my changes to config.toml seem to be inactive and I think, i did something wrong.

              As I will buy XOA soon, this does not matter for the future, but my current testing does only make sense, if I understand the build-process of my XOCE...

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              • florentF Offline
                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                last edited by

                @KPS
                strange
                does the job succeed ? no error message in the ui ?
                that's strang you sould have something like that :

                2022-12-23T14:35:00.387Z xo:backups:MixinBackupWriter INFO merging VHD chain {
                  chain: [
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/e8c486de-293a-46b4-8964-34537383a9fd/20221221T135820Z.alias.vhd',
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/e8c486de-293a-46b4-8964-34537383a9fd/20221221T140054Z.alias.vhd'
                  ]
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:00.413Z xo:backups:MixinBackupWriter INFO merging VHD chain {
                  chain: [
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/f1c4f818-6b6f-490b-9955-4920046ba695/20221221T135820Z.alias.vhd',
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/f1c4f818-6b6f-490b-9955-4920046ba695/20221221T140054Z.alias.vhd'
                  ]
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.119Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO use nbd is activated 
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.120Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO use nbd is activated 
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.359Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO got nbd info   {
                  nbdInfo: {
                    exportname: '/38ebcc3e-04eb-44ad-be6d-2cec55ef6557?session_id=OpaqueRef:43de5d35-6d78-44ba-8143-fc39eda691ed',
                    address: '172.16.210.11',
                    port: 10809,
                    cert: '-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----\n' +
                      'MIIC0DCCAbigAwIBAgIJAJYT6F6eRgKmMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMBgxFjAUBgNV\n' +
                      <REDACTED CERTIFICATE>
                      'eJqPRd+mowBDpbf4O3Av7ZkmiUZkHOHEQJan5w/0KQwEkXmwPAJPuxlGHxtOXq0+\n' +
                      'SsFaZA==\n' +
                      '-----END CERTIFICATE-----',
                    subject: 'R620-1'
                  },
                  id: 'OpaqueRef:1551d934-9d2f-4e12-9b50-a3ba0518c94c'
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.359Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO nbd client instantiated   { vdi: 'OpaqueRef:1551d934-9d2f-4e12-9b50-a3ba0518c94c' }
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.365Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO got nbd info   {
                  nbdInfo: {
                    exportname: '/319a266c-9909-4210-aae4-41041747d607?session_id=OpaqueRef:43de5d35-6d78-44ba-8143-fc39eda691ed',
                    address: '172.16.210.11',
                    port: 10809,
                    cert: '-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----\n' +
                       < REDACTED CERTIFICATE >
                      'SsFaZA==\n' +
                      '-----END CERTIFICATE-----',
                    subject: 'R620-1'
                  },
                  id: 'OpaqueRef:01ac600a-8bb5-4fda-83ca-ee8635c631ab'
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.365Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO nbd client instantiated   { vdi: 'OpaqueRef:01ac600a-8bb5-4fda-83ca-ee8635c631ab' }
                2022-12-23T14:35:17.451Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter WARN can't connect to nbd server or no server available {
                  error: Error: stream has ended without data
                      at readChunkStrict (/home/florent/Documents/xen-orchestra/@vates/read-chunk/index.js:39:11)
                      at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
                      at async NbdClient.#handshake (/home/florent/Documents/xen-orchestra/@vates/nbd-client/index.js:110:13)
                      at async NbdClient.connect (/home/florent/Documents/xen-orchestra/@vates/nbd-client/index.js:84:5)
                      at async /home/florent/Documents/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/writers/DeltaBackupWriter.js:212:15
                      at async Promise.all (index 1)
                      at async /home/florent/Documents/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/backups/writers/DeltaBackupWriter.js:175:7,
                  vdi: 'OpaqueRef:01ac600a-8bb5-4fda-83ca-ee8635c631ab'
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:18.594Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO nbd client connected   { vdi: 'OpaqueRef:1551d934-9d2f-4e12-9b50-a3ba0518c94c' }
                2022-12-23T14:35:33.466Z xo:backups:mergeWorker INFO starting
                2022-12-23T14:35:33.536Z xo:backups:mergeWorker INFO merging VHD chain {
                  chain: [
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/e8c486de-293a-46b4-8964-34537383a9fd/20221221T140054Z.alias.vhd',
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/e8c486de-293a-46b4-8964-34537383a9fd/20221223T142751Z.alias.vhd'
                  ]
                }
                2022-12-23T14:35:33.545Z xo:backups:mergeWorker INFO merging VHD chain {
                  chain: [
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/f1c4f818-6b6f-490b-9955-4920046ba695/20221221T140054Z.alias.vhd',
                    '/xo-vm-backups/93454bd8-d763-96f7-d230-50b6545122be/vdis/18e8af20-1235-469c-a417-b5dcd754d933/f1c4f818-6b6f-490b-9955-4920046ba695/20221223T142751Z.alias.vhd'
                  ]
                }
                
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                  NielsH @florent
                  last edited by

                  @florent said in backup using http instead of https:

                  @KPS it's an easy win, so here is your christmas present
                  https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/6596
                  the message should show if nbd is really activated or not in XO, if there is a nbd enabled network on the host , and if the connection is successfull

                  Just wondering, could NBD also be used in the future for speeding up live migrations with local storage?

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    It's possible we (with XenServer) decide to use NBD everywhere (ie in SMAPIv3 for storage migration, since there's no dedicated format unlike SMAPIv1 and VHD at all stages)

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                    • K Offline
                      KPS Top contributor @florent
                      last edited by

                      @florent
                      My problem seems to be, that NBD is not getting activated/tried:

                      Dec 27 09:35:59 XOA xo-server[6477]: 2022-12-27T08:35:59.951Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO use nbd is NOT activated
                      
                      

                      ...although:

                      • useNbd = true is set
                      • Backup-Remote is an SMB-share wir the setting "Store backup as multiple data blocks instead of a whole VHD file. (creates 500-1000 files per backed up TB but allows faster merge) "
                      • NBD-network is activated on one interface, XO and XCP-ng can work with

                      Is there any other dependency, that stops NBD from getting used?

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        @florent could tell I think

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                        • florentF Offline
                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                          last edited by

                          @KPS I found something on or code , can you pull the branch and retry ?

                          Regards

                          Florent

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                          • K Offline
                            KPS Top contributor @florent
                            last edited by

                            @florent
                            Thank you for the update. NBD seems to be used, but there is an error after that, that I do not understand (VDI_IN_USE):

                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]: 2023-01-02T10:32:53.954Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO use nbd is activated
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]: 2023-01-02T10:32:53.995Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO got nbd info   {
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:   nbdInfo: {
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:     exportname: '/ed614338-1f35-4faf-b679-cc24bcd6f566?session_id=OpaqueRef:c9997f76-072c-415d-8624-91da8bd95489',
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:     address: '172.31.0.143',
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:     port: 10809,
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:     cert: '-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----\n' +
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:       'xxxx +
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:       'xxxx' +
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:       '' +
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:       '-----END CERTIFICATE-----',
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:     subject: 'xenpool4host3'
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:   },
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]:   id: 'OpaqueRef:1dba9109-30fa-454e-86d1-1a89d6d3d6c7'
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]: }
                            Jan  2 11:32:53 XOA xo-server[166886]: 2023-01-02T10:32:53.997Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO nbd client instantiated   { vdi: 'OpaqueRef:1dba9109-30fa-454e-86d1-1a89d6d3d6c7' }
                            Jan  2 11:32:57 XOA xo-server[166886]: 2023-01-02T10:32:57.876Z xo:backups:DeltaBackupWriter INFO nbd client connected   { vdi: 'OpaqueRef:1dba9109-30fa-454e-86d1-1a89d6d3d6c7' }
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]: 2023-01-02T10:33:03.061Z xo:xapi WARN retry {
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   attemptNumber: 0,
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   delay: 5000,
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   error: XapiError: VDI_IN_USE(OpaqueRef:d7a06e27-cba7-475c-b309-0a72e889444d, destroy)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at XapiError.wrap (/opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/_XapiError.js:21:12)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at _default (/opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/_getTaskResult.js:18:38)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at Xapi._addRecordToCache (/opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:748:51)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at /opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:781:14
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at Xapi._processEvents (/opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:769:12)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at Xapi._watchEvents (/opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:901:14)
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5) {
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     code: 'VDI_IN_USE',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     params: [ 'OpaqueRef:d7a06e27-cba7-475c-b309-0a72e889444d', 'destroy' ],
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     call: undefined,
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     url: undefined,
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     task: task {
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       uuid: '644e680d-74ed-32cb-8ffd-ee5f29c47fed',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       name_label: 'Async.VDI.destroy',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       name_description: '',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       allowed_operations: [],
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       current_operations: {},
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       created: '20230102T10:33:02Z',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       finished: '20230102T10:33:02Z',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       status: 'failure',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       resident_on: 'OpaqueRef:1c3a1cae-b9be-980d-09f6-2ed35b498411',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       progress: 1,
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       type: '<none/>',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       result: '',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       error_info: [Array],
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       other_config: {},
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       subtask_of: 'OpaqueRef:NULL',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       subtasks: [],
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:       backtrace: '(((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 4367))((process xapi)(filename lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 231))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 103)))'
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     }
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   },
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   fn: 'destroy',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   arguments: [ 'OpaqueRef:d7a06e27-cba7-475c-b309-0a72e889444d' ],
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   pool: {
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     uuid: '001cacae-1717-bad3-c2e4-078d64efe4f7',
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:     name_label: 'XenPool4'
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]:   }
                            Jan  2 11:33:03 XOA xo-server[166886]: }
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]: 2023-01-02T10:33:09.326Z xo:backups:mergeWorker INFO starting
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]: 2023-01-02T10:33:09.378Z xo:backups:mergeWorker INFO merging VHD chain {
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]:   chain: [
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]:     '/xo-vm-backups/4f54db87-ddec-3ecb-333e-150514683c0b/vdis/d4984b22-8028-49ae-9f76-849406fa4d83/2b88b90c-4f44-40e2-bcb2-b15248dd12ce/20221231T230016Z.alias.vhd',
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]:     '/xo-vm-backups/4f54db87-ddec-3ecb-333e-150514683c0b/vdis/d4984b22-8028-49ae-9f76-849406fa4d83/2b88b90c-4f44-40e2-bcb2-b15248dd12ce/20230101T230012Z.alias.vhd'
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]:   ]
                            Jan  2 11:33:09 XOA xo-server[166903]: }
                            
                            

                            Is this related to NBD in any way?

                            Thank you and best wishes
                            KPS

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                            • florentF Offline
                              florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                              last edited by

                              @KPS VDI_IN_USE is not NBD related , it may happen but the retry should handle this correctly

                              thank you for your help

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                                KPS Top contributor @olivierlambert
                                last edited by

                                One strange thing: According to the docs, NBD should only be used, when there is a remote storage with "Store backup as multiple data blocks instead of a whole VHD file. (creates 500-1000 files per backed up TB but allows faster merge) "

                                But: There is also the message "INFO nbd client connected" for storage without that option.

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                                  KPS Top contributor @florent
                                  last edited by KPS

                                  @florent
                                  Sorry, but next issue:
                                  Backup size is always shown as 122 KiB although, there are 4GB saved to the remote.

                                  If I save to a storage without "many-files"-seting, 4 GiB is shown

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                                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                                    last edited by florent

                                    @KPS that is a second bug
                                    I will look into it this afternoon.
                                    edit : confirmed, I'm working on it

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