Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option

[olivierlambert]

Nope, it will be just for the traffic between XO and the Backup Repo (BR)

[Forza]

Ah, that's a shame, but reasonable for a point release. Maybe next major release?

This was an interesting read regarding nconnect on Azure https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/storage/files/nfs-performance

[olivierlambert]

Yes, XCP-ng 9.x will likely able to use it

[Forza]

@olivierlambert

I did a 3 x backup of a single VM hosted on an SSD drive on the same host as XOA is running, which is also pool master.

This is with nconnect=1:

This is with nconnect=16:

The transfer speed according to XOA is slightly less, but looking at the bandwidth graph, it looks like the LACP bonded network on the storage server is reaching a higher max throughput.

I will test some more with incremental backups and see if there's a difference with them.

If we ignore the nconnect for a second, and just look at the graphs, it seems we have a lot of possibilities to improve the backup performance if we could make the transfer more even. What is causing this type of pattern? I do not believe any coalesce was happening during this test.

[olivierlambert]

That's a question for @florent

[florent]

On the read side :

• the legacy mode : xapi build an expor from the vhd chain
• NBD : we read individual block on the storage repository

On the write Side :

• the default file mode : we write 1 big file per disk
• block mode : we write a compressed block per 2MB data

We don't have a lot of room on the legacy mode. The NBD + block gives us more freedom, and , instinctively , should gain more from nconnect, since we will read and write multiple small blocks in parallel

What mode are you using ?

@Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

@olivierlambert

I did a 3 x backup of a single VM hosted on an SSD drive on the same host as XOA is running, which is also pool master.

This is with nconnect=1:

This is with nconnect=16:

The transfer speed according to XOA is slightly less, but looking at the bandwidth graph, it looks like the LACP bonded network on the storage server is reaching a higher max throughput.

I will test some more with incremental backups and see if there's a difference with them.

If we ignore the nconnect for a second, and just look at the graphs, it seems we have a lot of possibilities to improve the backup performance if we could make the transfer more even. What is causing this type of pattern? I do not believe any coalesce was happening during this test.

[Forza]

@florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

[acomav]

Just replying to thank you for pointing this out. I have been having very poor backup speeds for over a month and this sorted it out.
I have only used nconnect=4 and 6 for my NFS shares.

[olivierlambert]

Hi @acomav

Can you give more details on your setup and the result before/after? We might use this to update our XO guide with the new values

[acomav]

@olivierlambert Hi Olivier. I'll see what I can do. I've spent the weekend cleaning up my backups and catching up on mirror transfers. Once completed, I'll do a few custom backups at various nconnect values.

[florent]

@Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

@florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

can you test a backup on an empty remote with block mode ?

[manilx]

@florent Did a test on my 8.3 homelab.
Using XO on a Debian 12 VM.

2 full (delta) backups using "nconnect=6" of all my 10 VM's

With block defined at remote:

without block (my normal mode):

[olivierlambert]

I'm not sure to get it with your graph. Can you write down the average values for each scenario?

[manilx]

@olivierlambert

with block: 100-150 MB/s approx
without: 200-300 MB/s

Values from observed NAS traffic.

[Forza]

@manilx Do you mean block as NBD mode?

[manilx]

@Forza Did another test:

A: Remote as nfs share with "Store backup as multiple data blocks"
B: same but without multiple data blocks

1st backup to A,"Backup"

2nd backup to B, "Backup"

3rd backup to A, "Backup"

4th backup to B, "Delta Backup"

[manilx]

@manilx This was just one VM. Did not use NBD (forgot to turn on)

[olivierlambert]

I'm a bit confused, you are comparing block based vs VHD, but did you also change the nconnect option between run or kept it to a specific number? (in case, which one)

[manilx]

@olivierlambert allbackups done with nfs option "nconnect=6"

[manilx]

@manilx 2 more and yes seems to be confusing and just to round it up.

Same VM as above

Delta (full) backup using NBD without and with "nconnect=6" in the remote setting:

with nconnect=6

nconnect=6 doesn't seem to do a lot.