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    Epyc VM to VM networking slow

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      dknight-bg @TeddyAstie
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      @TeddyAstie

      I'm attaching results with Epyc 9004 / AS-1015CS-TNR-EU / MB: H13SSW

      user cpu family market v2v 1T v2v 4T h2v 1T h2v 4T notes
      dknight-bg EPYC 9354P Zen4 server 5.10 G (130/150/250) 6.24 G (131/254/348) 11.1 G (0/131/216) 11.1 G (0/187/302) Disabled: Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB (ERMS), Fast Short REP MOVSB (FSRM)
      dknight-bg EPYC 9354P Zen4 server 6.71 G (112/223/269) 7.11 G (122/261/342) 11.3 G (0/145/190) 11.5G (0/179/282) Enabled: Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB (ERMS), Fast Short REP MOVSB (FSRM)

      I couldn't find a setting for REP-MOV/STOPS Streaming in the BIOS, nor in the MB manual.

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        In VM to VM it's already a "free" +30% perf for 1T, impressive. Also 14% for 4T, not bad.

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          nicols @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert yes, but this is only a small improvement to overall problem. Still, compared to similar intel platform, v2v network performance is very low. Are there any news for the final solution to this problem?

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            manilx @nicols
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            @nicols We're on 2 HP's with AMD EPYC 7543P 32-Core and it is a pain.
            Had to deploy Intel server just for running the backups, which improved a lot (but that's stupid with 2 beasts of hosts)

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              No obvious solution yet, it's likely due to an architecture problem on AMD, because of CCDs and how CPUs are made. So the solution (if there's any) will be likely a sum of various small improvements to make it bearable.

              I'm going to Santa Clara to discuss that with AMD directly (among other things).

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                manilx @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert No more EPYC's here, that's for sure. In the future it'll be Intel again (even if they then belong to Broadcom and TMC :p)

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                  Forza @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert said in Epyc VM to VM networking slow:

                  No obvious solution yet, it's likely due to an architecture problem on AMD, because of CCDs and how CPUs are made. So the solution (if there's any) will be likely a sum of various small improvements to make it bearable.

                  I'm going to Santa Clara to discuss that with AMD directly (among other things).

                  Do we have other data to back this? The issue is not really common outside of Xen. I do hope some solution comes out from the meeting with AMD.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    If we become partners officially, we'll be able to have more advanced accesses with their teams. I still have hope, it's just that the pace isn't on me.

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                      Davidj 0 @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert
                      Can we rule out extra_guest_irqs as the root cause of this problem?

                      https://docs.xcp-ng.org/compute/#nvme-storage-devices-on-linux

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        It's probably completely unrelated, but feel free to test 🙂

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