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      manilx @Tristis Oris
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      @Tristis-Oris To be honest, this just opens more "configurations/complications" for a fringe case.....
      Manual backups should never be deleted, unless I specifically do that (in an enterprise environment you don't necessarily know why they were made but there certainly was a reason fir them).

      An information in the dashboard for backups "older" than x days could be interesting, yes.

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        DustinB @manilx
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        @manilx said in Manual snapshots retention:

        @Tristis-Oris To be honest, this just opens more "configurations/complications" for a fringe case.....
        Manual backups should never be deleted, unless I specifically do that (in an enterprise environment you don't necessarily know why they were made but there certainly was a reason fir them).

        An information in the dashboard for backups "older" than x days could be interesting, yes.

        Right, I think having just a list of Snapshots older then X (that aren't created from a scheduled job) would be beneficial to validate that things aren't getting too long in the tooth.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Could we have a consensus on how long? That would help to build the feature 😄

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            Tristis Oris Top contributor @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert
            for a custom amount of time?)

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              If we just want to display it in "Health view" that would be better to have at least a default value we all agree on 🙂

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                manilx @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert 30 days seems OK to me.

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                  Tristis Oris Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert well, 30 days is a super maximum for any real needs to restore anything.

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    Done: https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/8258

                    olivierlambert created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                    closed Healthview: display snapshots older than 30 days #8258

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                      DustinB @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert I added a response in the hopes that it clarifies the end-goal.

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                        flakpyro @DustinB
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                        @olivierlambert I wonder if it would be beneficial to show all snapshots older than 30 days not just ones not created by an automated process. For example what happens if a XO backup job runs, creates a snapshot but the process is interrupted and the job fails. Will the next time the job runs clean up the previous failed jobs snapshot or is there a chance a snapshot could be left behind?

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                          Tristis Oris Top contributor @flakpyro
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                          @flakpyro true, sometimes that happens and they will never be deleted.
                          I'm don't remember, but maybe such snaspshots not visible as orphaned.

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                            DustinB @flakpyro
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                            @flakpyro said in Manual snapshots retention:

                            @olivierlambert I wonder if it would be beneficial to show all snapshots older than 30 days not just ones not created by an automated process. For example what happens if a XO backup job runs, creates a snapshot but the process is interrupted and the job fails. Will the next time the job runs clean up the previous failed jobs snapshot or is there a chance a snapshot could be left behind?

                            Garbage collection should be handling this...

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                              In theory there's no such thing as XO checks. Now for the feature request, I prefer the idea of showing manual leftovers and leave the admin to decide what to do with it 🙂

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                                Tristis Oris Top contributor
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                                you say here that this feature is implemented, but i don't see new menu. ec782

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  I think the dev working on it had personal issues few days before the release, so at worst it will be there in a patch release or in 5.106. There's so much things in the pipe, it's possible sometimes they aren't shipped on D-day. But it will be there finally 🙂

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                                    Tristis Oris Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                                    @olivierlambert haha, i'm watching you)

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                                      Tristis Oris Top contributor
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                                      Merged. Works as intented, thank you.

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                                        Tristis Oris Top contributor
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                                        i found something to remove. Need to change text here, it too scary.

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                                          manilx @Tristis Oris
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                                          @Tristis-Oris I had the SAME thing today. The message scared me for 1min before I hit go.......

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                                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                            Hi,

                                            I'm not sure to understand the issue. Removing those old snapshots makes you nervous because on the message telling you if you remove it the data associated with it will be remove? Or maybe it's just a phrasing thing? Like all "VM SNAPSHOTS" will be removed instead of VM only?

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