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    • jerry1333J Online
      jerry1333
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      Hi,
      why xcp-ng and xoa are using so much of cpu while nothing is running?
      I have host with xcp-ng 8.3 + xoa installed from xo-lite.

      There is nothing else on that host and this is only host in pool but it's using 30% of cpu all the time?
      Is this normal for xcp-ng and xoa?

      Pool stats:
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      Host stats:
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      XOA VM stats:
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        Pilow @jerry1333
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        @jerry1333 could you do a TOP in XOA vm to identify what consumes CPU ?

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          jerry1333
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          XOA htop looks like this:
          ff4865df-0387-4ea6-85b6-29ab928911d2-image.jpeg

          Video from xoa and xo:
          https://imgur.com/a/SUyppQr

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            Pilow @jerry1333
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            @jerry1333 nothing obvious.. except for NETDATA popping on your host
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            did you enable advanced telemetry ? could be it

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              jerry1333 @Pilow
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              @Pilow Yes, it was enabled, then cpu usage shown on pool was around 50%.
              When I disable plugin then it gets back to ~30%.

              Is there a way to remove netdata from host?

              Anyway I will wipe this server and try new install with custom xoa (self compiled) and keep watching how it will behave.

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                Pilow @jerry1333
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                @jerry1333 you could try to stop & disable auto load plugin in SETTING/PLUGINS
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                and restart host ?

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                  jerry1333 @Pilow
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                  @Pilow did that but netdata on host is still working :
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                    jerry1333 @jerry1333
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                    If I kill netdata process it will come back by it self.

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                      Pilow @jerry1333
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                      @jerry1333 on your host

                      # systemctl status netdata
                      ● netdata.service - Real time performance monitoring
                         Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/netdata.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
                         Active: active (running) since Sun 2026-02-01 13:55:32 +04; 2 months 4 days ago
                        Process: 2425 ExecStartPre=/usr/libexec/netdata/xcpng-iptables-restore.sh (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
                       Main PID: 2464 (netdata)
                         Memory: 355.1M
                         CGroup: /system.slice/netdata.service
                                 ├─   2464 /usr/sbin/netdata -D
                                 ├─   2466 spawn-plugins
                                 ├─   2724 /usr/libexec/netdata/plugins.d/network-viewer.plugin 1
                                 ├─   2739 /usr/libexec/netdata/plugins.d/apps.plugin 1
                                 ├─   2743 /usr/libexec/netdata/plugins.d/systemd-journal.plugin 1
                                 ├─   2745 spawn-setns
                                 ├─2300997 /usr/libexec/netdata/plugins.d/debugfs.plugin 1
                                 └─3392346 /usr/bin/bash /usr/libexec/netdata/plugins.d/tc-qos-helper.sh 1
                      
                      

                      try that :

                      systemctl stop netdata
                      
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                        Pilow @Pilow
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                        followed by a

                        systemctl disable netdata
                        

                        it should get rid of it, no easy way by XOA UI to disable this

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                          jerry1333 @Pilow
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                          @Pilow After disabling netdata service cpu usage droped by 10% on both host and pool.
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                          Step in right direction, thanks 🙂

                          I was expecting empty server cpu usage on 2-5% level but maybe xcp behaves like this and it is normal?

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                            Pilow @jerry1333
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                            @jerry1333 I have an empty server in a pool, I do see some regulare bumps in the network, probably XOA polling RRDs for the stats from the master.

                            but no spikes in CPU as you have
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                              Pilow @Pilow
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                              haaaa on the pool stats, it spikes to 50% (but I have 2 hosts in this pool)
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                              my guess ? false positive 🙂 real monitoring do not add up to what we see in XOA stats.
                              I think we're down a rabbit hole

                              @olivierlambert told once that these stat graphs have not been updated for 10 years.

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                                Pilow @jerry1333
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                                @jerry1333 said:

                                There is nothing else on that host and this is only host in pool but it's using 30% of cpu all the time?

                                it's not using 30% of CPU, you see a graph of cumulated (switch is on) core consumption of your 32 cores.

                                never switch this on. it adds up like that : 32x1%=32%, wrongfully letting you think you are at 30%ish CPU usage.

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