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    • olivierlambert
      olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

      Dom0 can't boot here. Likely related to a more recent kernel than in 7.6.

      Note that I don't have any issue on a Ryzen 7 (2xxx) nor EPYC.

      Anyone else with a 2200G?

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        cg last edited by

        Additionally: I installed XS 7.6 before and 'upgraded' it via USB-stick to XCP-ng 7.6.
        Worked without any problems and VMs were fine.

        Also regarding boot: I had a problem like that with OPSI, as their bootimage had some changes to the kernel, that made it stop.

        What helped was to limit the memory to 2G (2048M). I don't know if/how to add that to the USB-stick, to test if that helps here, too.
        (Tried noapic/noacpi on OPSI before... maxmem helped!)

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        • olivierlambert
          olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

          In UEFI, you can edit the Grub menu before starting install. Try to change RAM value there ๐Ÿ™‚

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            cg last edited by

            I've taken a loot at the USB-stick and found grub config files. What I found was a maxmem of 8192 MB already configured.
            I changed it to 2048M (I don't see any reason why the setup should need more than a few hundret MBs) aaaand it worked.
            As it affected 2 different systems (opsi bootimage for PXE install and CH/XCP) I'm very sure it's a kernel bug!
            Though I can't say which kernels are affected, except that old kernels work.
            When I have time, I may test it on our Epyc server, but I guess that it
            s more about the embedded Vega GPU and the shared memory.

            https://forum.opsi.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10611 Et al.
            I'm not the first one, having trouble with Ryzen/Vega APU and the Linux kernel.

            tl;dr:
            As a workaround, I recommend setting the mem-limit for install stick generally to 2048M, as there shouldn't be any benefit for more anyways and it pushes compatibility.

            Yet have to upgrade the system and see if XCP-ng 8 Beta boots properly (had it still on CH 8.0 for test).

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            • olivierlambert
              olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

              Indeed, I suppose it's related to Ryzen+Vega APU, because I can't reproduce on EPYC nor Ryzen without APUs.

              Regarding making the chance upstream, I'm not entirely confident to make the modification, because it's hard to evaluate the impact (our RC is pretty close now). But it's up to @stormi to decide ๐Ÿ™‚

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              • stormi
                stormi Vates ๐Ÿช XCP-ng Team ๐Ÿš€ last edited by

                At this stage, I'd rather document the issue to help people workaround it than change the default values inherited from Citrix (who tested the installer on a lot of hardware). I also suggest to open an issue at https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues so that other users that would meet the same issue could share their experience and let us try to estimate whether it's a widely spread issue or something very specific to some hardware.

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                • olivierlambert
                  olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                  Looks like the best way to me ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    cg last edited by cg

                    @cg said in XCP-ng 8.0.0 Beta now available!:

                    https://forum.opsi.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10611 Et al.

                    I created an issue, IMHO it would be good if the problem itself makes it to upstream to either bump someone to fix it or get feedback that problem is known/fixed in version X.Y.Z.

                    For reference:
                    https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/issues/206

                    nagilum99 created this issue in xcp-ng/xcp

                    closed Unable to boot installer with AMD Ryzen APUs #206

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                    • stormi
                      stormi Vates ๐Ÿช XCP-ng Team ๐Ÿš€ @cg last edited by

                      @cg said in XCP-ng 8.0.0 Beta now available!:

                      I created an issue, IMHO it would be good if the problem itself makes it to upstream to either bump someone to fix it or get feedback that problem is known/fixed in version X.Y.Z.

                      Thanks for creating the issue.

                      You could test with Citrix Hypervisor and then report it at https://bugs.xenserver.org
                      Maybe they'll want to investigate even if the hardware is not officially supported. If someone can reproduce the issue on supported hardware, that would make things easier.

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                        cg @stormi last edited by

                        @stormi said in XCP-ng 8.0.0 Beta now available!:

                        You could test with Citrix Hypervisor and then report it at https://bugs.xenserver.org
                        Maybe they'll want to investigate even if the hardware is not officially supported. If someone can reproduce the issue on supported hardware, that would make things easier.

                        Though I doubt it was woth the effort, as the support over there is well known (especially for not supported configurations etc.) I did it - for the reason of trying to improve stuff (and giving back to OSS community):
                        https://bugs.xenserver.org/projects/XSO/issues/XSO-955

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                          cg last edited by

                          I just did the upgrade from 7.6 to 8.0.0 beta via USB-stick (with workaround): I successfully upgraded the existing installation including the softwareraid on the first 2 SSDs.

                          # cat /proc/mdstat 
                          Personalities : [raid1] 
                          md127 : active raid1 sda[0] sdb[1]
                                117220736 blocks super 1.0 [2/2] [UU]
                                bitmap: 1/1 pages [4KB], 65536KB chunk
                          

                          Everythings fine, even RAID survived. ZFS stuff will come later. Would be good if that would find a way into XCP-ng Center (is it in XOA yet?) for easier management. Likewise for Ext4.

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                          • olivierlambert
                            olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                            Find a way to what?

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                              cg last edited by

                              New SR -> Type -> ZFS... creatig a new SR via GUI/XCP-ng Center.

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                              • olivierlambert
                                olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                                You should really keep an eye on XO dev ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/4266

                                It's coming this week ๐Ÿ™‚

                                GHEMID-Mohamed created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                                closed feat(xo-web/new-sr): list ZFS pools at SR creation #4266

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                                  cg last edited by

                                  My time is (sadly) limited, I can't wacht/monitor everything.
                                  XCP-ng Center? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  • olivierlambert
                                    olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                                    XCP-ng Center is only community maintained, so feel free to contribute if you want that inside ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                      cg last edited by cg

                                      XCP-ng already ate a bunch of time, and I'm sure it'll continue for testing etc
                                      I'm Sysadmin with very limited coding ability - I'm definately out for that.

                                      I guess it would need someone being good at C#.NET. Also XAPI would probably need to know about it (what may already be, as you're implementing it into XOA)...

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                                      • olivierlambert
                                        olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                                        Clearly, adding feature in XCP-ng Center would require a lot of contributions, that's why I don't think it's the future of XCP-ng "client". Having one great client allows to focus all effort instead of "spreading" the thin capabilities on various similar "ways" to administrate it.

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                                        • borzel
                                          borzel XCP-ng Center Team ๐Ÿš๏ธ last edited by

                                          Yes, this seems to be the case ๐Ÿ˜• But XCP-ng Center will remain as it is, at least.

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                                          • olivierlambert
                                            olivierlambert Vates ๐Ÿช Co-Founder๐Ÿฆธ CEO ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ผ last edited by

                                            I think it's a good thing to focus on one "best" tier-one solution, especially on a "small" community like us ๐Ÿ™‚

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