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      CJ @rtjdamen
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      @rtjdamen Agreed. I'm waiting for them to respond regarding my patching problems so I can test the latest updates. If that still has problems then hopefully they can let me know what they need to investigate the issue.

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        CJ
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        I'm now updated to the latest patches and XO version. I've cleaned out the control attached VMs and the orphans. We'll see how the backup goes tonight.

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          rtjdamen @CJ
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          @CJ fingers crossed!

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            rtjdamen
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            Hi all, i can confirm the vdi_in_use error is resolved by https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/7960 we no longer see issues there.

            Only remaining issue we see is the “ can’t create a stream from a metadata vdi fall back to base”

            fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

            closed feat(backups/CBT): retry data_destroy when error is VDI_IN USE #7960

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              not sure is it CBT related, but 1 pool got a huge coalesce queue after i tried migrate VDI to another storage.

              for example, this VM halted for a months with disabled backups. How it possible to get coalesce this way?
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                rtjdamen @Tristis Oris
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                @Tristis-Oris Coalesce Leaf is only valid with no snapshots on the vm, if there is one this is just coalesce and the button does not work. Maybe check your smlog to see if there are any coalesce related errors. Also check if there are vdi's attached to the control domain, sometimes this can prevent coalesce from occuring.

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                  CJ
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                  Unfortunately, I have to report that my 3 problem VMs all have attached themselves to the control domain again.

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                    CJ
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                    Things continue to get weirder. I now have three copies of one VM attached to the control domain along with one copy each of the other two VMs but the delta backup says that it successfully completed.

                    Any ideas why the one VM keeps getting additional disks attached to the control domain?

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                      Andrew Top contributor @CJ
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                      @CJ Do you have Number of NBD connection per disk set to 1 (one), or is it set higher? If it's set higher than 1, try setting to back to 1. I have the same problem when I use higher than 1.

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                        CJ @Andrew
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                        @Andrew I have it set to 4. But it's only these 3 VMs, not all of the VMs part of the backup job.

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                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Try to set it to 1 first and see if you still have the same problem (after cleaning the previous left overs)

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                            CJ @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert That's the really weird part. Other than the notice on the dashboard, I'm not having any problems. 🙂 The backups are completing successfully. Which is a definite change from before I updated everything. Then the backups would fail for any VM with an attached disk.

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                              rtjdamen @CJ
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                              @CJ we have the number of nbd connections also set to 1, did some testing with more but had issues with it and it gave no performance improvement. Maybe this is causing your issue?

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                                CJ
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                                This is odd. It seems to need to get to a certain point before backups start failing. I have the one VM with 3 disks attached to the control, the other two with only one disk each attached, and now a fourth VM with only one disk attached. However, the backup only failed the original three VMs. The backup failed with "VDI_IN_USE(OpaqueRef:UUID, destroy)".

                                I've changed the number of NBD connections to 1 so we'll see if that stops the attachment issue.

                                There appears to be a problem with the backup report email, however. It states "Success: 0/N" while the actual job report shows that only the three VMs failed and the others succeeded.

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                                  Andrew Top contributor @CJ
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                                  @olivierlambert @florent @CJ Backups have been much more stable since the latest XO update 10-Sep-2024 (XOA 5.98.1, master commit 4c7acc1).

                                  Running CR and CBT/NBD of 2 connections does not leave stranded VDIs any more (at least I have not seen any yet).

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                                    rtjdamen @Andrew
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                                    @Andrew we see the same behavior here, no strange backup issues so far!

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                                      CJ
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                                      No attached disks so far, but I'll wait until next week to bump up the NBD connections to make sure.

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                                        CJ
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                                        Unfortunately, as soon as I bumped the NBD connections up to 2 I got an attached disk. It doesn't seem like the latest changes have fixed the issue.

                                        Xen Orchestra, commit 74e6f

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                                          Delgado @CJ
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                                            rtjdamen
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                                            @florent deployed a fix last week that resolved the vdi_in_use errors, however after updating tot the latest XOA release that problem came back and is not resolved anymore. Not shure if this is a new issue or that it is having issues with the fix.

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