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    • poddingueP
      poddingue Vates 🪐 @acebmxer
      last edited by

      There's an open issue that looks more or less like the same failure: vatesfr/xen-orchestra#10255, filed against a source build.
      The reporter there says the proxy does get the command and finishes the export on the host, and that the failure is the UI dropping its connection rather than the backup dying.
      I haven't reproduced that myself, so I don't know whether it's your case, but it seemed worth saying before more jobs get turned off. 🤷

      One thing to watch if you go checking: xe task-list only shows tasks running right now.
      On an idle 8.3 host here, it prints nothing at all, so running it after a job has already failed should give you an empty list, which may read like confirmation the backup never ran.
      It'd have to be during the job, or check whether the replica actually landed on the destination SR.

      Might be worth a mention to @Team-XO-Backend.

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      • acebmxerA
        acebmxer @poddingue
        last edited by

        @poddingue

        In the task log i see this...

        Task: API call: backupNg.runJob

        {
          "error": "Having multiple authentication methods is not supported, please choose one"
        }
        
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          pierrebrunet Vates 🪐 XO Team @acebmxer
          last edited by

          @acebmxer @flakpyro Hi, there was a patch release this morning for a few issues. Can you update your XO and check if it still happen?

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          • acebmxerA
            acebmxer @pierrebrunet
            last edited by acebmxer

            @pierrebrunet

            My post this morning after that update.

            I see the same error in task view prior to the update but under the scheduled task as it was the actual backup job not me tring.

            API call: schedule.runSequence
            

            I am starting a fresh backup instead of retrying the last failed backup.

            Edit - From fresh backup....

            Also i have support ticket up about v6 dash board not loading and support tunnel open if you want to look. Ticket#7763637

            {
              "data": {
                "mode": "delta",
                "reportWhen": "always",
                "backupReportTpl": "mjml",
                "hideSuccessfulItems": true
              },
              "id": "1788347692784",
              "jobId": "bb0adfc7-93b9-45c9-a90f-7aa327f95a05",
              "jobName": "Tilton - Delta Backups",
              "message": "backup",
              "proxyId": "9d22fb88-8bdd-44d3-a3a3-9ff5401f95df",
              "scheduleId": "249a8339-da2b-4031-b85d-dc3d9526efa5",
              "start": 1788347692784,
              "status": "failure",
              "end": 1788347752961,
              "result": {
                "message": "fetch failed",
                "name": "TypeError",
                "stack": "TypeError: fetch failed\n    at node:internal/deps/undici/undici:14976:13\n    at AsyncResource.runInAsyncScope (node:async_hooks:214:14)\n    at cb (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:355:42)\n    at tryCatcher (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)\n    at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)\n    at Promise._settlePromise (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)\n    at Promise._settlePromise0 (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)\n    at Promise._settlePromises (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:725:18)\n    at _drainQueueStep (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)\n    at _drainQueue (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)\n    at Async._drainQueues (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)\n    at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)\n    at processImmediate (node:internal/timers:484:21)\n    at process.callbackTrampoline (node:internal/async_hooks:130:17)"
              }
            }
            
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              pierrebrunet Vates 🪐 XO Team @acebmxer
              last edited by pierrebrunet

              @acebmxer Hi, I just checked your infra. It seems there was a connection error on the proxy around 2h ago: "Xen Orchestra Server could not be reached. Please check your connection."

              Can you retry a backup whenever it is possible for you?

              Edit: for this part, "error": "Having multiple authentication methods is not supported, please choose one"
              It is because you are connecting with two connections in parallel (one with a token and one basic).

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              • acebmxerA
                acebmxer @pierrebrunet
                last edited by acebmxer

                @pierrebrunet

                v6 dahsboard is now connected and working.

                Both Proxies are connected and vms are visible from the remote pools...

                Backup job still fails. same error.

                How and why does it have to many conections? To where XOA? to the Proxy? to the Backup remote?

                I did recently have two seperate issues each different at both remote sites recenlty but the inital backup error seemed similar to the OP. And all backups worked until recent updates.

                Edit -

                This is soemthing new....

                THis is still an active tranfer when the job reported failed....
                Reran backup again. It does appear to be doing the backup but it stil fails after creating snapshots or around that point. Once the job fails the backup is still happening and health checks happening.

                Screenshot 2026-09-02 100207.png

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                • florentF
                  florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @acebmxer
                  last edited by

                  @acebmxer Hi am testing an hypothesis where removing an old library introduced a implicit compression and buffering between the proxy and the how.

                  Can I provide a branch to test, or can I deploy a fix through a support tunnel ?

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                    flakpyro @florent
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                    @florent Im having the same issue on 6.8.1 as well. XO and Proxies both updated.

                    The backup fails with "Fetch Failed" and the following appears in the log:

                    {
                      "data": {
                        "mode": "delta",
                        "reportWhen": "failure"
                      },
                      "id": "1788359113454",
                      "jobId": "61c9c971-a2ca-453a-9ed6-934e7cf241b2",
                      "jobName": "TestLab-14Day-VMVault03",
                      "message": "backup",
                      "proxyId": "3b26e911-1502-4686-ada4-7e4e33ad6222",
                      "scheduleId": "23f4b532-feb3-4c23-8fcd-1fd318e9ce63",
                      "start": 1788359113454,
                      "status": "failure",
                      "end": 1788359173436,
                      "result": {
                        "message": "fetch failed",
                        "name": "TypeError",
                        "stack": "TypeError: fetch failed\n    at node:internal/deps/undici/undici:14976:13\n    at AsyncResource.runInAsyncScope (node:async_hooks:214:14)\n    at cb (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:355:42)\n    at tryCatcher (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)\n    at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)\n    at Promise._settlePromise (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)\n    at Promise._settlePromise0 (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)\n    at Promise._settlePromises (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:725:18)\n    at _drainQueueStep (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)\n    at _drainQueue (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)\n    at Async._drainQueues (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)\n    at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)\n    at processImmediate (node:internal/timers:484:21)\n    at process.callbackTrampoline (node:internal/async_hooks:130:17)"
                      }
                    }
                    

                    However the backup appears to carry on the in the background after i receive the email of failure / the backup shows as failed on the backups page in XO5.

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                    • acebmxerA
                      acebmxer @florent
                      last edited by

                      @florent Yes you may deploy a patch thought the support tunnel.

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                      • florentF
                        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @acebmxer
                        last edited by

                        @acebmxer can you give me the support tunnel number by chat ? patch is ready

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                        • florentF
                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
                          last edited by

                          fix is here https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/10346 , it works on @flakpyro proxies

                          the root cause is a timing condition between compression buffering data silently and timeout watching any stall connection

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                          • acebmxerA
                            acebmxer @florent
                            last edited by

                            @florent I sent pm with support tunnel. Are you able to apply patch or will patch be pushed live soon?

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                            • acebmxerA
                              acebmxer
                              last edited by acebmxer

                              @florent

                              Backups ran after patch applied...

                              1 pool had zero issues on backup 100% complete...
                              Other pool while it complete did have some errors...

                              Started a second backup on same pool and giving same results.

                              {
                                "data": {
                                  "mode": "delta",
                                  "reportWhen": "always",
                                  "backupReportTpl": "compactMjml",
                                  "hideSuccessfulItems": true
                                },
                                "id": "1788428437610",
                                "jobId": "c0e31730-7d45-4f3a-8733-8cea444b127d",
                                "jobName": "Salem - Delta Backups",
                                "message": "backup",
                                "proxyId": "7840039e-a3cb-41ed-acee-3690f89a1426",
                                "scheduleId": "ce3c801c-4384-4726-bda1-f6bae788e2f4",
                                "start": 1788428437610,
                                "status": "success",
                                "tasks": [
                                  {
                                    "id": "0mtlc477z-gdvpj68kva",
                                    "start": 1788428438927,
                                    "status": "success",
                                    "tasks": [
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc478f-guqsurb38qa",
                                        "start": 1788428438943,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "end": 1788428440120,
                                        "result": {
                                          "merge": false,
                                          "size": 0
                                        },
                                        "message": "clean-vm"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc48cx-c1y79k93vl",
                                        "start": 1788428440401,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "end": 1788428442225,
                                        "result": "67677eec-494b-6ab6-0447-ac4dba8932a1",
                                        "message": "snapshot"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc49rm-ou0nslm2c7l",
                                        "start": 1788428442227,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "tasks": [
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtlc724s-62ae1bzdupa",
                                            "start": 1788428572300,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "end": 1788428932605,
                                            "result": {
                                              "size": 20385362944
                                            },
                                            "message": "transfer",
                                            "data": {
                                              "progress": 99
                                            }
                                          },
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtlceupa-f476k7iq2u4",
                                            "start": 1788428935918,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "tasks": [
                                              {
                                                "id": "0mtlceutz-yztgqk0sv0c",
                                                "start": 1788428936087,
                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788429285986,
                                                "result": {
                                                  "size": 20380123136,
                                                  "id": "5fb5f6f1-709b-b149-4aa6-31514ef2c7f2"
                                                },
                                                "message": "transfer"
                                              },
                                              {
                                                "id": "0mtlcmctg-8z00dmmisds",
                                                "start": 1788429285988,
                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788429291289,
                                                "message": "vmstart"
                                              }
                                            ],
                                            "end": 1788429296722,
                                            "message": "health check"
                                          },
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtlcml5b-ywe7qa02f7q",
                                            "start": 1788429296783,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "end": 1788429300723,
                                            "result": {
                                              "merge": false,
                                              "size": 0
                                            },
                                            "message": "clean-vm"
                                          }
                                        ],
                                        "end": 1788429300727,
                                        "message": "export",
                                        "data": {
                                          "id": "19270323-baaa-4a7b-bf1f-e152ae44f263",
                                          "isFull": false,
                                          "type": "remote"
                                        }
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "warnings": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't compute delta OpaqueRef:afcf0af9-64c9-845d-207c-789c9c5de78f from OpaqueRef:13ce290f-2194-280e-72c5-9e16271505df, fall back to a full"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't connect through NBD, fall back to stream export"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "Backup fell back to a full"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "infos": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "will delete snapshot data"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "data": {
                                          "vdiRef": "OpaqueRef:afcf0af9-64c9-845d-207c-789c9c5de78f"
                                        },
                                        "message": "Snapshot data has been deleted"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "end": 1788429300728,
                                    "message": "backup VM",
                                    "data": {
                                      "id": "0618e9fe-854e-7f01-1f22-6fb1667806d4",
                                      "type": "VM",
                                      "name_label": "Salem XO-CE",
                                      "progress": 0
                                    }
                                  },
                                  {
                                    "id": "0mtlc4783-s6m3pnf32pl",
                                    "start": 1788428438931,
                                    "status": "success",
                                    "tasks": [
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc478g-epd65nptnrn",
                                        "start": 1788428438944,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "end": 1788428439927,
                                        "result": {
                                          "merge": false,
                                          "size": 0
                                        },
                                        "message": "clean-vm"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc486t-mq755lvlxi",
                                        "start": 1788428440181,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "end": 1788428443614,
                                        "result": "d52e8853-1102-8bcd-b588-adbe5b411a6b",
                                        "message": "snapshot"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlc4au7-q4va6ntph6c",
                                        "start": 1788428443615,
                                        "status": "success",
                                        "tasks": [
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtlc9pax-xyje1fo25lf",
                                            "start": 1788428695641,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "end": 1788429704445,
                                            "result": {
                                              "size": 44032329216
                                            },
                                            "message": "transfer",
                                            "data": {
                                              "progress": 100
                                            }
                                          },
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtlcvdy1-pxmgi1rx7tk",
                                            "start": 1788429707353,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "tasks": [
                                              {
                                                "id": "0mtlcvdzc-uodtj65grrn",
                                                "start": 1788429707400,
                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788430481457,
                                                "result": {
                                                  "size": 44021317632,
                                                  "id": "ed4d4ce7-2685-a35a-b1e4-c54a1385364e"
                                                },
                                                "message": "transfer"
                                              },
                                              {
                                                "id": "0mtldbz96-dsndwbb93hv",
                                                "start": 1788430481466,
                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788430486658,
                                                "message": "vmstart"
                                              }
                                            ],
                                            "end": 1788430492516,
                                            "message": "health check"
                                          },
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtldc7vt-oopf5wcg74e",
                                            "start": 1788430492649,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "end": 1788430501065,
                                            "result": {
                                              "merge": false,
                                              "size": 0
                                            },
                                            "message": "clean-vm"
                                          }
                                        ],
                                        "end": 1788430501070,
                                        "message": "export",
                                        "data": {
                                          "id": "19270323-baaa-4a7b-bf1f-e152ae44f263",
                                          "isFull": false,
                                          "type": "remote"
                                        }
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "warnings": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't compute delta OpaqueRef:82b55a23-b13e-df37-c9f7-11373a42c40b from OpaqueRef:9824e8f1-0199-885c-e69a-d9275cd62d2a, fall back to a full"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't connect through NBD, fall back to stream export"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "Backup fell back to a full"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "infos": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "will delete snapshot data"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "data": {
                                          "vdiRef": "OpaqueRef:82b55a23-b13e-df37-c9f7-11373a42c40b"
                                        },
                                        "message": "Snapshot data has been deleted"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "end": 1788430501071,
                                    "message": "backup VM",
                                    "data": {
                                      "id": "64476a1a-20f5-32a4-6352-47916b2162d8",
                                      "type": "VM",
                                      "name_label": "Salem UnifiOS",
                                      "progress": 0
                                    }
                                  },
                                  {
                                    "id": "0mtlcmo92-ezud8mmu26",
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                                        "result": {
                                          "merge": false,
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                                        "message": "clean-vm"
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                                      {
                                        "id": "0mtlcmrdk-xm266uwj1ni",
                                        "start": 1788429304856,
                                        "status": "success",
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                                        "result": "dd0d0918-efdd-1a1d-ce94-85afbf0fd25c",
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                                            "end": 1788430829213,
                                            "result": {
                                              "size": 43868711424
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                                            "message": "transfer",
                                            "data": {
                                              "progress": 100
                                            }
                                          },
                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtldjhbz-rfnh54dr3y",
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                                            "status": "success",
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                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788431285549,
                                                "result": {
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                                                  "id": "e3215b6b-9b5a-0d49-3392-491cc39c19e4"
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                                                "message": "transfer"
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                                              {
                                                "id": "0mtldt7ox-r81abwrax4",
                                                "start": 1788431285553,
                                                "status": "success",
                                                "end": 1788431290565,
                                                "message": "vmstart"
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                                            "end": 1788431296314,
                                            "message": "health check"
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                                          {
                                            "id": "0mtldtg0h-8kvnbox5dg3",
                                            "start": 1788431296337,
                                            "status": "success",
                                            "end": 1788431297610,
                                            "result": {
                                              "merge": false,
                                              "size": 0
                                            },
                                            "message": "clean-vm"
                                          }
                                        ],
                                        "end": 1788431297611,
                                        "message": "export",
                                        "data": {
                                          "id": "19270323-baaa-4a7b-bf1f-e152ae44f263",
                                          "isFull": false,
                                          "type": "remote"
                                        }
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "warnings": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't compute delta OpaqueRef:4b3d9930-d795-03f8-c887-f8b7d2a95524 from OpaqueRef:894ead1a-dae6-f156-d8c7-c7f5ba2200ef, fall back to a full"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "can't connect through NBD, fall back to stream export"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "message": "Backup fell back to a full"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "infos": [
                                      {
                                        "message": "will delete snapshot data"
                                      },
                                      {
                                        "data": {
                                          "vdiRef": "OpaqueRef:4b3d9930-d795-03f8-c887-f8b7d2a95524"
                                        },
                                        "message": "Snapshot data has been deleted"
                                      }
                                    ],
                                    "end": 1788431297611,
                                    "message": "backup VM",
                                    "data": {
                                      "id": "ddf296c8-20a0-6aa9-0d74-ebc029d0d1b3",
                                      "type": "VM",
                                      "name_label": "Salem UnifiOS",
                                      "progress": 0
                                    }
                                  }
                                ],
                                "end": 1788431297621,
                                "infos": [
                                  {
                                    "data": {
                                      "vms": [
                                        "0618e9fe-854e-7f01-1f22-6fb1667806d4",
                                        "64476a1a-20f5-32a4-6352-47916b2162d8",
                                        "ddf296c8-20a0-6aa9-0d74-ebc029d0d1b3"
                                      ]
                                    },
                                    "message": "vms"
                                  }
                                ]
                              }
                              
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                              • acebmxerA
                                acebmxer
                                last edited by

                                To sum up... It appears the patch has worked for me but has shed some light on miss configuration with the network design at this remote location, that I will need to take a real closer look at.

                                @florent thank you very much for your continue assistance with my issues.

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                                • florentF
                                  florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @acebmxer
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                                  @acebmxer we are far more explicit on the real usage of NBD, paing the way to mark a failed NBD connexion as an error in a few month

                                  also working on a diagnostic tool to be more efficient on the checks

                                  thank you all for your time

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