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      HeMaN @stormi
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      @stormi
      now realise I had the same behaviour after applying the latest 8.2.0 security updates a few weeks ago.
      At that time thought it was because I patched the master manually already (test repo release) and updated the entire pool only after the official release 2 days later (roling pool update).

      So it is not (only) related to the 8.2.1 release

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        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @HeMaN
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        @HeMaN I think it's more likely to happen with the 8.2.1 update because more components are updated. Else I agree.

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          stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
          last edited by stormi

          New security updates (xen, Intel microcode)

          Impact: newly disclosed security vulnerabilities may allow attackers from within a guest to access memory of the host or other VMs. Only AMD CPUs are affected. To know if your specific model is affected, consult the vendor publications. Xen has been patched to mitigate the hardware issue.

          Additionnally but unrelated to the security issue, firmware is updated for some models.

          Citrix' security bulletin: https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX341586

          Test on XCP-ng 8.2

          From an up to date host:

          yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
          yum update linux-firmware microcode_ctl xen-dom0-libs xen-dom0-tools xen-hypervisor xen-libs xen-tools --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
          reboot
          

          Versions:

          • xen-*: 4.13.4-9.20.1.xcpng8.2
          • microcode_ctl: 2.1-26.xs20.xcpng8.2
          • linux-firmware-20190314-3.xcpng8.2

          What to test

          Normal use and anything else you want test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.

          Test window before official release of the updates

          ~2 days. Maybe less.

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            Andrew Top contributor @stormi
            last edited by

            @stormi Manual updates done on all my 8.2.1 machines and things are working correctly so far.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Same thing on my EPYC machine.

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                NielsH @stormi
                last edited by

                Thanks!

                I see there's also another XSA available; XSA-396 (https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ )
                Will these be combined with the microcode patches ?

                Cheers!

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                  stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @NielsH
                  last edited by

                  @NielsH XSA-396 does not affect XCP-ng as the device back-ends are in dom0 directly, not in driver domains.

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                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                    last edited by

                    Security update released. Thanks @Andrew for testing!

                    https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2022/03/11/march-2022-security-update/

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                      hecki @stormi
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                      @stormi I read the warning about problems with the rolling-pool-update, so after updating the pool with xen-orchestra, i wanted to live-migrate the Vms manually with xen-center. But live-migration fails, an the VMs crashed. I had to stop the other vms on the master and then reboot to get them back online.
                      After that I shut down the other VMs to savely reboot the other nodes.

                      So I think, the warning is not fully correct, also without using the rolling-pool-update feature you can get into trouble. Maybe the mentioned toolstack-restart after the update could have helped me, but there was no info about that in the blog post warning ...

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                        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @hecki
                        last edited by

                        @hecki Thanks for the feedback. I agree that we could try to make it even more obvious how to avoid the issue, but the blog post does already point at the documentation for updating, as always when we publish an update, and the documentation clearly states you need to restart the toolstack (and it's not new... It's just that many people just overlook it and fortunately for them in most cases this is without consequences... Hence bad habits taken): https://xcp-ng.org/docs/updates.html#from-xen-orchestra

                        AFAIK the next release of Xen Orchestra will either restart the toolstack or remind you to do it when you apply patches.

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                          hecki @stormi
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                          @stormi I alwas used the rolling pool update since its available so i did not read the docs since then any more. If I understand you correct, until now the rolling pool update does not do a toolstack restart during the node restarts although it is so important?

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                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @hecki
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                            @hecki In the case of Rolling Pool Update it's not a matter of toolstack restart anymore but rather of updating and rebooting hosts one by one rather than all at once.

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                              hecki @stormi
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                              @stormi ok, so "Install pool patches" and "Rolling pool update" internally behave completely different. This is new for me, until now, i thought, the Rolling Pool Update is a "Install poool patches" with following evacuation and reboot of the nodes, so thats what I have done manually today. Thanks for the explanation ...

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                                stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @hecki
                                last edited by

                                @hecki That's what it was (with extra steps also such as putting hosts in maintenance mode), but this will change in the next release of Xen Orchestra as Rolling Pool Update will now evacuate, update then reboot every host one by one

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                                  NielsH
                                  last edited by

                                  Looks like yet another security patch from Xenserver available now 😞

                                  https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-398.html

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                                    stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @NielsH
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                                    @NielsH No, they just updated the existing advisory. See "UPDATES IN VERSION 2".

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                                      NielsH @stormi
                                      last edited by

                                      @stormi Ah phew, good to hear we won't have to update everything so quickly again 😅

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                                        stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                                        last edited by

                                        New security updates (xen, Intel microcode)

                                        Impact: host crash by exploiting PCI passthrough from a VM

                                        Citrix' security bulletin: https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX390511

                                        Test on XCP-ng 8.2

                                        From an up to date host:

                                        yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                                        yum update xen-dom0-libs xen-dom0-tools xen-hypervisor xen-libs xen-tools --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
                                        reboot
                                        

                                        Versions:

                                        • xen-*: 4.13.4-9.21.1.xcpng8.2

                                        What to test

                                        Normal use and anything else you want to test. The closer to your actual use of XCP-ng, the better.

                                        Test window before official release of the updates

                                        ~2 days.

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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by

                                          Tested here on one home lab machine, it works 👍

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                                            Andrew Top contributor @stormi
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                                            @stormi Post update, things are working as normal on my hosts.

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