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    the writer IncrementalRemoteWriter has failed the step writer.beforeBackup() with error Lock file is already being held. It won't be used anymore in this job execution.

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      manilx @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert I have it enabled all the time. And I'm now getting these errors now each day. Most of the time on the 1st backup of the day.

      I get it on Delta, Mirror incremental backup

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        manilx @manilx
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        @manilx This has started 2 weeks go or so. But it's getting worse. I'm pretty sure it started with one of the XO updates..... As nothing else was changed.

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        • olivierlambertO Online
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          Are you on XOA or XO sources? Which version?

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            manilx @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert XO Xen Orchestra, commit 987e9
            Master, commit ef636

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            • olivierlambertO Online
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by olivierlambert

              I'm not sure to understand, why two different commit numbers?

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                manilx @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert That's the last update I did yesterday.....

                Just updated now to latest: Xen Orchestra, commit ef636
                Master, commit ef636

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                • olivierlambertO Online
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  Do you have the issue on XOA?

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                    manilx @olivierlambert
                    last edited by manilx

                    @olivierlambert @Business with XOA no. Only HomeLab with XO but it has been rockstable until this.

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                    • florentF Online
                      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
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                      this happens when 2 backup jobs are working on the same VM , or a backup and a background merge worker .
                      If it's the first case, you can use a job sequence to ensure the backup run one after another

                      If it's the latter, you have a check box to ensure the merge is done directly inside the job (bottom of the advanced settings of the backup job ), instead of doing this in a background job. It will slow down a little the job, but ensure it's completely done.

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                        manilx @florent
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                        @florent No other backup is running as I mentioned!

                        And "Merge backups synchronously" is on as mentioned.

                        This is not it.....

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                        • florentF Online
                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @manilx
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                          @manilx are there multiple job running on the same VM ?

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                            manilx @florent
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                            @florent Only one single backup job every 2hrs (multiple VM's). Running fore more than 1year without issues (not counting the initianl cbt stuff).

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                              manilx @manilx
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                              @florent This make no sense. There has to be some leftover sometimes of a lock file.
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                              • SudoOracleS Offline
                                SudoOracle
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                                So I started getting this a few days ago as well. My backups have been fine for over a year until now, they are constantly failing at random. They will usually succeed just fine if I restart the failed backup. I am currently on commit 494ea. I haven't had time to delve into this though. I just found this post when initially googling.

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                                • olivierlambertO Online
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  That's interesting feedback, maybe a recently introduced bug. Could you try to go on an older commit to see if you can identify the culprit?

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                                    manilx @SudoOracle
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                                    @SudoOracle Thx for chiming in!

                                    Glad to know I'm not alone.

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                                      SudoOracle @olivierlambert
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                                      @olivierlambert I went back to my prior version, which was commit 04dd9. And the very next backup finished successfully. Not sure if this was a fluke, but I have backups going every 2 hours and this was the first to finish successfully today without me clicking the button to retry the backup. I'll report tomorrow on whether they continue to work or not.

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                                      • olivierlambertO Online
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                        Okay great, you can use git bisect to easily find the culprit. Now we also need to find the common situation between you and @manilx : type of backup, advanced options enabled, type of BR, and so on to also understand more about this.

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                                          manilx @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert I have changed my backup strategy because of that:

                                          Before:
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                                          Now:
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                                          After this the problem did no longer occur.

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                                          • olivierlambertO Online
                                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                            Can you sum up what you did? I admit I don't have enough time to investigate differences between 2 screenshots 😞

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