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    the writer IncrementalRemoteWriter has failed the step writer.beforeBackup() with error Lock file is already being held. It won't be used anymore in this job execution.

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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
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      this happens when 2 backup jobs are working on the same VM , or a backup and a background merge worker .
      If it's the first case, you can use a job sequence to ensure the backup run one after another

      If it's the latter, you have a check box to ensure the merge is done directly inside the job (bottom of the advanced settings of the backup job ), instead of doing this in a background job. It will slow down a little the job, but ensure it's completely done.

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        manilx @florent
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        @florent No other backup is running as I mentioned!

        And "Merge backups synchronously" is on as mentioned.

        This is not it.....

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        • florentF Offline
          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @manilx
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          @manilx are there multiple job running on the same VM ?

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            manilx @florent
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            @florent Only one single backup job every 2hrs (multiple VM's). Running fore more than 1year without issues (not counting the initianl cbt stuff).

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              manilx @manilx
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              @florent This make no sense. There has to be some leftover sometimes of a lock file.
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              • SudoOracleS Offline
                SudoOracle
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                So I started getting this a few days ago as well. My backups have been fine for over a year until now, they are constantly failing at random. They will usually succeed just fine if I restart the failed backup. I am currently on commit 494ea. I haven't had time to delve into this though. I just found this post when initially googling.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  That's interesting feedback, maybe a recently introduced bug. Could you try to go on an older commit to see if you can identify the culprit?

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                    manilx @SudoOracle
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                    @SudoOracle Thx for chiming in!

                    Glad to know I'm not alone.

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                    • SudoOracleS Offline
                      SudoOracle @olivierlambert
                      last edited by

                      @olivierlambert I went back to my prior version, which was commit 04dd9. And the very next backup finished successfully. Not sure if this was a fluke, but I have backups going every 2 hours and this was the first to finish successfully today without me clicking the button to retry the backup. I'll report tomorrow on whether they continue to work or not.

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        Okay great, you can use git bisect to easily find the culprit. Now we also need to find the common situation between you and @manilx : type of backup, advanced options enabled, type of BR, and so on to also understand more about this.

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                          manilx @olivierlambert
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                          @olivierlambert I have changed my backup strategy because of that:

                          Before:
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                          Now:
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                          After this the problem did no longer occur.

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            Can you sum up what you did? I admit I don't have enough time to investigate differences between 2 screenshots 😞

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                              manilx @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert Sure!

                              I had a main backup job running 2 schedules, on bihourly and one last one at the end of the day, the latter one with healthcheck.

                              Then I had 2 Mirror incremental ones running after that, one to a local NAS and one to a remote NAS @office.

                              I now have separate backups for the bihourly, end of day and the 2 mirror ones (now they are delta backups directly to the NAS'es).

                              I hope this explains it.

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                Thanks. As soon the commit generating the error is identified, this will be very helpful for @florent 🙂

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                                  manilx @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert I can then restore the config and retest once it's identified/fixed.... But just now I need the backups working without issues 😉

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                                  • SudoOracleS Offline
                                    SudoOracle
                                    last edited by SudoOracle

                                    So since I went back to an older version, I have not had a single backup fail. I have 3 main backups that run. 2 of them daily (my pool metadata/XO config and a delta of 18vms) and then 1 every 2 hours (also a delta but only of 3 vms). ALL of them would fail in one way or another, even the metadata. Something I just noticed now is it looks like each backup is starting twice or at least there are failed logs indicating so. If they are actually running twice that would explain the errors. This would also explain why clicking the retry backup option would always succeed.

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                                    Error from the metadata backup:

                                    EEXIST: file already exists, open '/run/xo-server/mounts/c9199dfc-af05-4707-badb-8741e61daafb/xo-config-backups/f19069dd-f98b-4b41-9ca8-0e711fc75968/20250216T041500Z/data.json'
                                    
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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                      @SudoOracle are you able to find the offending commit?

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                                      • SudoOracleS Offline
                                        SudoOracle @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert Still working on it. It's between a4986 and 494ea.

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                                          manilx @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert Just to confirm that the error have stopped since I changed the backup plans.

                                          The change being to have only one schedule per job and not using Replicate jobs.

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                                          • SudoOracleS Offline
                                            SudoOracle
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                                            Ok so I'm not sure what happened but it's working fine now, I made it all the way back to commit 494ea and my backups continue to work. I have done nothing except move between commits. Maybe something happened when updating before? I am going to move to the latest commit and see if it continues to work.

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