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    • JamfoFLJ Offline
      JamfoFL
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      XCP-ng 8.3

      Xen Orchestra from Sources
      Commit 97230

      After updating to the latest commit shown above, all of the drop-down boxes are empty on all screens.

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      Everything else seems to be working just fine... it's only an inability to go into any drop-down on any screen to see the available options, machines, backups, etc.

      Any ideas on what to look for?

      Thank you!

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        probain @JamfoFL
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        JamfoFL

        Danp responded to similar/same issue here:
        https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/89858

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          JamfoFL @probain
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          probain Thanks for the update... I will monitor that ticket, as well.

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            JamfoFL
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            I just wanted to post an update as of Monday, February 24, 2025...

            I updated to Commit f18b0 and that seems to have fixed the issue. All of the dropdown options that were missing in the above screen shots, as well as many others, are all back and responding normally once again. So, it looks like the issue has been addressed and operations have returned to normal.

            The only oddity I now see after all of that is when I run yarn after pulling the updates, I receive an error message that the expected version of Node is now v20. I upgraded to v20, but it seems that the backup portion of Xen still needs v18... so be sure to keep both on the system or things will break. I have both v18 and v20 installed and running, with v20 set as default.

            Other than that little oddity, it seems everything else is doing everything it should be doing!

            Thanks to the excellent Vates teams for getting everything back on track.

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              Andrew Top contributor @JamfoFL
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              JamfoFL I'm running Node 22 now. I was running 20 before without any problems. Node 18 was a long time ago...

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                JamfoFL @Andrew
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                Andrew Do you still have Node 18 installed even though you are on Node 22 now? When I upgraded to Node 20 I uninstalled Node 18 and immediately all backups started to fail. I received error messages about needing Node 18.19.1 for the backups to work.

                I reinstalled 18.19.1 and that got everything working again. So, it seems that, for whatever reason, that newer versions of Node are supported, but you have to keep the older versions around or some things will break. In fact, I found if I installed the latest version of Node 18, 18.20.1, that my backups still failed. I specifically had to use Node 18.19.1 to keep things working.

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                  Andrew Top contributor @JamfoFL
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                  JamfoFL I have only current Node installed. After upgrading Node I rebuilt XO.

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                    JamfoFL @Andrew
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                    Andrew Oh... you rebuilt XO from scratch?

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                      Andrew Top contributor @JamfoFL
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                      JamfoFL I am running both XOA and XO source.

                      For the XOA I just use the Vates update. I don't do any changes to the OS. Don't mess with their packages, just use the update button.

                      For XO source, I update Node and the OS and rebuild XO for source updates.

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                        JamfoFL @Andrew
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                        Andrew I guess maybe that's the difference? I update Node and then do the usual update process (git checkout, yarn, yarn build, etc...) and my backups were still unable to run without Node 18 installed. Sounds like you went completely back to square one and built XO as if it were a brand-new machine.

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                          Andrew Top contributor @JamfoFL
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                          JamfoFL I use an update script, and yes, it builds a new version after a git pull.

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                            JamfoFL @Andrew
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                            Andrew Interesting... up until this time we've never needed to completely rebuild XO every time a new Commit was released or a Node update was required. The existing installation just kept working. I hope this isn't something that is going to become standard as having to completely rebuild XO every time a new Commit is available would be a bit of a pain...

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                              Andrew Top contributor @JamfoFL
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                              JamfoFL I don't know exactly what you have been doing, but yes, you would normally rebuild after pulling in a new commit. I use the XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater update script by ronivay . You don't have to update on every commit. You can just wait for the full release update that looks like feat: release 5.103.1

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                                TS79 @Andrew
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                                Andrew JamfoFL - another fan of the ronivay script here, as it offers a rollback feature.

                                I noticed the same 'empty dropdown' problem; for me it was while trying to create a new backup job. I ran the script and rolled back, which fixed the issue and allowed me to complete the backup job.

                                I waited about a week, noticed that the number of commits behind had increased, then updated again. This time it all went through fine.

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                                  ph7 @Andrew
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                                  Andrew said in All drop-down options are empty:

                                  release 5.103.1

                                  How do You do this?
                                  Is it possible to choose exactly this release when running the update, or do you check github every day?
                                  Sorry for this question but I don't know the github finesses

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                                    There's no "release" nor stable version on Github. If you want stability that's why XOA is made for 🙂 (even if we have a decent track record of getting master correctly working most of the time)

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                                      Andrew Top contributor @TS79
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                                      TS79 ph7 JamfoFL
                                      For everyone's future reference: Here is a great XO install video thanks to lawrencesystems . Also, read the XO from source install docs.

                                      Remember, XO is open-source, so you are the beta tester. If you don't want to do that then Deploy XOA which has been tested and is supported.

                                      If you have no idea what you are doing, just use XOA. Just click on Deploy XOA and follow the prompts. You'll be ready to go in minutes without any deep knowledge or google rabbit hole searches!

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                                        TS79 @Andrew
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                                        Andrew said in All drop-down options are empty:

                                        XO install video

                                        thanks Andrew - 100% agree 🙂
                                        Tom's video is the exact one that introduced me to the ronivay script, which is what I've used for all XO-from-source installs without problems.

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