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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @flakpyro
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      @flakpyro today the backup code use binary stream in a the vhd format. This format is limited, by design , to 2TB disks
      xcp-ng team introduce the qcow2 format to handle bigger disk
      By using a independant format, we'll be able to handle both vhd and qcow2 on the backup side without multiplying complexity. We'll also be able to build the adapter to handle the various vmdk sub format (rax, cowd, sesparse and stream optimized) used by v2v and import bigger disks directly

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      • Tristis OrisT Offline
        Tristis Oris Top contributor
        last edited by

        Could i test it on prod, along with real backups? or better to setup 2nd XO instance.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          It's your call, but there's no guarantee it won't break for now, as the code is relatively young.

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          • Tristis OrisT Offline
            Tristis Oris Top contributor @olivierlambert
            last edited by

            @olivierlambert but could it change old backup tasks\compability or something else? tests with real data obviously more helpful.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              I will let @florent answering this one 😄

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                Davidj 0 @olivierlambert
                last edited by

                I'm still getting "Cannot find module '@vates/generator-toolbox'" errors when I try to build it. I'm using the 'feat_generator_backups" branch.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for your feedback, @florent will take a look.

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                  • florentF Offline
                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Davidj 0
                    last edited by

                    @Davidj-0 Are you using it from source or through a thrid party script ?

                    because this dependency is present in the branch, but still not published on npm

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                    • florentF Offline
                      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
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                      @Tristis-Oris said in Our future backup code: test it!:

                      @olivierlambert but could it change old backup tasks\compability or something else? tests with real data obviously more helpful.

                      It could gives us more informaitons, but in the other hand we are still in the validation phase.

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                      • Tristis OrisT Offline
                        Tristis Oris Top contributor
                        last edited by

                        same error as above

                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: cache miss, executing 6b8daba7020cf148
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: yarn run v1.22.22
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: $ tsc
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: src/SynchronizedDisk.mts(2,30): error TS2307: Cannot find module '@vates/generator-toolbox' or its corresponding type declarations.
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: error Command failed with exit code 2.
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform:build: ERROR: command finished with error: command (/opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202504071027/@xen-orchestra/disk-transform) /tmp/yarn--1744010914016-0.7668824784043369/yarn run build exited (2)
                        @xen-orchestra/disk-transform#build: command (/opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202504071027/@xen-orchestra/disk-transform) /tmp/yarn--1744010914016-0.7668824784043369/yarn run build exited (2)
                        
                         Tasks:    24 successful, 28 total
                        Cached:    0 cached, 28 total
                          Time:    11.251s
                        Failed:    @xen-orchestra/disk-transform#build
                        
                         ERROR  run failed: command  exited (2)
                        error Command failed with exit code 2.
                        info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
                        + rm -rf /opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202504071027
                        
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                        • florentF Offline
                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
                          last edited by

                          @Tristis-Oris did you run yarn from the root of the project to install the new dependencies ?

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                          • Tristis OrisT Offline
                            Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                            last edited by Tristis Oris

                            @florent

                            yarn install v1.22.22
                            [1/5] Validating package.json...
                            [2/5] Resolving packages...
                            [3/5] Fetching packages...
                            warning Pattern ["@intlify/shared@latest"] is trying to unpack in the same destination "/usr/local/share/.cache/yarn/v6/npm-@intlify-shared-11.1.2-d780bc8eb4e3c3ef8a3e45c421f0f5ecf59651f2-integrity/node_modules/@intlify/shared" as pattern ["@intlify/shared@11.1.2","@intlify/shared@11.1.2","@intlify/shared@11.1.2"]. This could result in non-deterministic behavior, skipping.
                            warning Pattern ["@intlify/shared@next"] is trying to unpack in the same destination "/usr/local/share/.cache/yarn/v6/npm-@intlify-shared-11.0.0-rc.1-52a67aa12fccd9303027b48ebf017b75b7350283-integrity/node_modules/@intlify/shared" as pattern ["@intlify/shared@11.0.0-rc.1"]. This could result in non-deterministic behavior, skipping.
                            warning bare-os@3.4.0: The engine "bare" appears to be invalid.
                            [4/5] Linking dependencies...
                            warning "@commitlint/cli > @commitlint/load > cosmiconfig-typescript-loader@6.1.0" has unmet peer dependency "@types/node@*".
                            warning "@commitlint/cli > @commitlint/load > cosmiconfig-typescript-loader@6.1.0" has unmet peer dependency "typescript@>=5".
                            warning "@typescript-eslint/eslint-plugin > ts-api-utils@1.4.3" has unmet peer dependency "typescript@>=4.2.0".
                            warning " > @xen-orchestra/web-core@0.18.0" has unmet peer dependency "pinia@^3.0.1".
                            warning " > @xen-orchestra/web-core@0.18.0" has unmet peer dependency "vue@~3.5.13".
                            warning " > @xen-orchestra/web-core@0.18.0" has unmet peer dependency "vue-i18n@^11.1.2".
                            warning " > @xen-orchestra/web-core@0.18.0" has unmet peer dependency "vue-router@^4.5.0".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @xen-orchestra/rest-api > inversify@6.2.2" has unmet peer dependency "reflect-metadata@~0.2.2".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @xen-orchestra/rest-api > swagger-ui-express@5.0.1" has unmet peer dependency "express@>=4.0.0 || >=5.0.0-beta".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @vates/event-listeners-manager > tap > @tapjs/test > @isaacs/ts-node-temp-fork-for-pr-2009@10.9.7" has unmet peer dependency "@types/node@*".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @xen-orchestra/rest-api > inversify > @inversifyjs/core > @inversifyjs/reflect-metadata-utils@0.2.4" has unmet peer dependency "reflect-metadata@0.2.2".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @vates/event-listeners-manager > tap > @tapjs/asserts > tcompare > react-element-to-jsx-string@15.0.0" has unmet peer dependency "react@^0.14.8 || ^15.0.1 || ^16.0.0 || ^17.0.1 || ^18.0.0".
                            warning "workspace-aggregator-9e56f98d-aa3d-4c5b-aae2-45a491674f9d > @vates/event-listeners-manager > tap > @tapjs/asserts > tcompare > react-element-to-jsx-string@15.0.0" has unmet peer dependency "react-dom@^0.14.8 || ^15.0.1 || ^16.0.0 || ^17.0.1 || ^18.0.0".
                            warning Workspaces can only be enabled in private projects.
                            [5/5] Building fresh packages...
                            $ husky install
                            husky - Git hooks installed
                            Done in 39.86s.
                            
                            

                            but same error.

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                            • florentF Offline
                              florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Tristis Oris
                              last edited by

                              @Tristis-Oris it looks like the build from completly empty repo don't work as expected

                              can you try this :

                              cd @vates/generator-toolbox/
                              yarn build 
                              cd - 
                              yarn build
                              

                              I am working on improving the build process in the meantimes

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                              • Tristis OrisT Offline
                                Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                                last edited by

                                @florent yep it works now.

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                                  john.c
                                  last edited by

                                  So is it this new backup code which the tape back up support will be plugging into?

                                  If so I have been thinking may be have it when doing the tape backup support, get the XOA to install the packages when required after prompting the user. Also have xo-server instruct the creation of a new disk image for attaching to xoa. The new disk image would act as storage or cache for the extra data used by tape drive backups.

                                  The tape drive related software wouldn't be installed by default, unless specified as such during deployment with the XOA deploy tool. But instead installed at user request, by selecting to use tape backup destination when setting up back up job, clicking on the shim widget about tape backups or restoring from an online Vates account backup of XOA settings.

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                                    Davidj 0 @florent
                                    last edited by Davidj 0

                                    @florent I'm doing this from source.
                                    Running git pull --rebase seems to have fixed the build problems.

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                                    • florentF Offline
                                      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @john.c
                                      last edited by florent

                                      @john.c the backup on tape is still on the roadmap but won't be for this step

                                      The main change is that we'll have to rework part of the code to ensure we write data sequentially + the management tools ( which backup is on which tape )

                                      You can try the FS on tape , but the performance penalty is heavy

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                                        john.c @florent
                                        last edited by

                                        @florent said in Our future backup code: test it!:

                                        @john.c the backup on tape is still on the roadmap but won't be for this step

                                        The main change is that we'll have to rework part of the code to ensure we write data sequentially + the management tools ( which backup is on which tape )

                                        You can try the FS on tape , but the performance penalty is heavy

                                        Even if its not part of this rewrite some of what I wrote is my idea or view as to how it could be implemented later on. So that it's implemented in a way, that permits people who don't need tape back ups to still have small Xen Orchestra instances. But at the same time enable those who use tape backups, to have the capacity and an appropriately sized Xen Orchestra.

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                                          Davidj 0
                                          last edited by

                                          Testing a continuous replication backup, I get Error: can't connect to any nbd client

                                          Running the same job on my regular XO works fine. Let me know what logs you want to see.

                                          mail (h2)
                                          
                                             Snapshot
                                             Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
                                             End: 2025-04-10 18:18
                                             h3 local storage (130.02 GiB free) - h3
                                             Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
                                          
                                          Start: 2025-04-10 18:18
                                          End: 2025-04-10 18:18
                                          Duration: a few seconds
                                          Error: can't connect to any nbd client
                                          Type: delta
                                          
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                                          • Tristis OrisT Offline
                                            Tristis Oris Top contributor @Tristis Oris
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tristis-Oris probably after https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/8432/files/04be6032180e7245a8db9c5f78177ac7999882c2

                                            /@vates/generator-toolbox# yarn build
                                            yarn run v1.22.22
                                            $ tsc
                                            /bin/sh: 1: tsc: not found
                                            error Command failed with exit code 127.
                                            info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
                                            

                                            ok, npm install -g typescript

                                            yarn build
                                            yarn run v1.22.22
                                            $ tsc
                                            src/synchronized.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/synchronized.test.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/synchronized.test.mts:2:29 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            2 import { suite, test } from 'node:test'
                                                                          ~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/throttle.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/throttle.test.mts:2:29 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            2 import { suite, test } from 'node:test'
                                                                          ~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/throttle.test.mts:3:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            3 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/throttle.test.mts:7:11 - error TS2580: Cannot find name 'Buffer'. Do you need to install type definitions for node? Try `npm i --save-dev @types/node`.
                                            
                                            7     yield Buffer.allocUnsafe(chunkSize)
                                                        ~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/timeout.mts:1:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            1 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/timeout.test.mts:1:30 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:test' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            1 import { describe, it } from 'node:test'
                                                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            src/timeout.test.mts:2:20 - error TS2307: Cannot find module 'node:assert' or its corresponding type declarations.
                                            
                                            2 import assert from 'node:assert'
                                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                            
                                            
                                            Found 10 errors in 6 files.
                                            
                                            Errors  Files
                                                 1  src/synchronized.mts:1
                                                 2  src/synchronized.test.mts:1
                                                 1  src/throttle.mts:1
                                                 3  src/throttle.test.mts:2
                                                 1  src/timeout.mts:1
                                                 2  src/timeout.test.mts:1
                                            error Command failed with exit code 2.
                                            info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
                                            
                                            fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                                            closed feat(backups): use generator instead of streams for backup and replication #8432

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