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    Our future backup code: test it!

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    • D Offline
      Davidj 0 @Tristis Oris
      last edited by

      @Tristis-Oris My setup is similar to yours, and I get similar errors on any existing backup job.

      However, if I create a new backup job, then it works without any error.

      ping @florent , maybe these data points are useful.

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      • florentF Offline
        florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team
        last edited by

        thanks for your tests . I will recheck NBD backup

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        • florentF Offline
          florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @florent
          last edited by

          ih @Tristis-Oris and @Davidj-0 I pushed an update to better handle NBD error, please keep us informed

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          • Tristis OrisT Offline
            Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
            last edited by Tristis Oris

            @florent i'm not sure how to update from this branch(

            git checkout .
            git pull --ff-only
            yarn
            yarn build
            
            Updating 04be60321..6641580e6
            Fast-forward
             @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/Xapi.mjs             | 17 ++++++++++-------
             @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdCbt.mjs       |  3 ++-
             @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiVhdStreamNbd.mjs |  3 ---
             @xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/utils.mjs            | 29 ++++++++++++++++-------------
             4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
            
            git checkout feat_generator_backups
            Already on 'feat_generator_backups'
            Your branch is up to date with 'origin/feat_generator_backups'.
            
            
            git pull origin feat_generator_backups
            From https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra
             * branch                feat_generator_backups -> FETCH_HEAD
            Already up to date.
            

            but still no NBD at backup.

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            • Tristis OrisT Offline
              Tristis Oris Top contributor
              last edited by

              i see significant speed difference from master branch.

              prod
              NBD
              160.71 MiB
              no NBD
              169

              test
              NBD (broken)
              110-130 MiB
              no NBD
              115

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              • florentF Offline
                florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                last edited by

                @Tristis-Oris ouch that is quite costly
                Can you describe which backup you run ?
                Can you check if the duration is different (maybe this is a measurement error and not a slow speed) ?

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                • Tristis OrisT Offline
                  Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                  last edited by

                  @florent

                  1 vm, 1 storage, NBD connections: 1. delta, first full.

                  Duration: 3 minutes
                  Size: 26.54 GiB
                  Speed: 160.71 MiB/s

                  Duration: 4 minutes
                  Size: 26.53 GiB
                  Speed: 113.74 MiB/s

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                  • florentF Offline
                    florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                    last edited by

                    @Tristis-Oris Do you have the same performance without NBD ?
                    Does your storage use blocks ?

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                    • Tristis OrisT Offline
                      Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                      last edited by

                      @florent blocks! i forgot about that checkbox)

                      better but not same.

                      Duration: 3 minutes
                      Size: 26.53 GiB
                      Speed: 143.7 MiB/s

                      Speed: 146.09 MiB/s

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                      • florentF Offline
                        florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                        last edited by

                        @Tristis-Oris I made a little change, can you update (like the last time ) and retest ?

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                        • Tristis OrisT Offline
                          Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                          last edited by

                          @florent
                          same speed after fix.
                          142.56 MiB/s - 145.63 MiB/s

                          maybe i miss something else? same database as prod, only another LUN connected for backups.

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                          • florentF Offline
                            florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                            last edited by florent

                            @Tristis-Oris no it's on our end

                            Could you retry nbd + target a block based directory ?
                            ON my test setup, with the latest changes I get better speed than master ( 190MB/s per disk vs 130-170 depending on the run and settings on master)

                            I got quite a huge variation between the same runs (40MB/s)

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                            • Tristis OrisT Offline
                              Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                              last edited by

                              @florent yep, now it equal. Maybe my hw bottleneck? i can also check with ssd storage to see max speed.

                              Duration: 3 minutes
                              Size: 26.53 GiB
                              Speed: 157.78 MiB/s
                              Speed: 149.39 MiB/s
                              Speed: 163.76 MiB/s

                              No more errors incorrect backup size in metadata.

                              But still no NBD(

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                              • florentF Offline
                                florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                last edited by

                                @Tristis-Oris that is already a good news.

                                I pushed an additional fix : the NBD info was not shown on the UI
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                                • Tristis OrisT Offline
                                  Tristis Oris Top contributor @florent
                                  last edited by

                                  @florent haha, now it works too good)

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                                  • Tristis OrisT Offline
                                    Tristis Oris Top contributor
                                    last edited by

                                    well, that was my CPU bottleneck. XO live at most stable DC, but oldest one.

                                    • Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v4 @ 2.60GHz

                                    flash:
                                    Speed: 151.36 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '131%', memoryUsage: '162.19 MiB' }
                                    hdd:
                                    Speed: 152 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '201%', memoryUsage: '314.1 MiB' }

                                    • Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 5215 CPU @ 2.50GHz

                                    flash:
                                    Speed: 196.78 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '129%', memoryUsage: '170.8 MiB' }
                                    hdd:
                                    Speed: 184.72 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '198%', memoryUsage: '321.06 MiB' }

                                    • Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz

                                    flash:
                                    Speed: 222.32 MiB/s
                                    Speed: 220 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '2m', cpuUsage: '155%', memoryUsage: '183.77 MiB' }

                                    hdd:
                                    Speed: 185.63 MiB/s
                                    Speed: 185.21 MiB/s
                                    summary: { duration: '3m', cpuUsage: '196%', memoryUsage: '315.87 MiB' }

                                    Look at high memory usage with hdd.

                                    sometimes i still got errors.

                                              "id": "1744875242122:0",
                                              "message": "export",
                                              "start": 1744875242122,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "tasks": [
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1744875245258",
                                                  "message": "transfer",
                                                  "start": 1744875245258,
                                                  "status": "success",
                                                  "end": 1744875430762,
                                                  "result": {
                                                    "size": 28489809920
                                                  }
                                                },
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1744875432586",
                                                  "message": "clean-vm",
                                                  "start": 1744875432586,
                                                  "status": "success",
                                                  "warnings": [
                                                    {
                                                      "data": {
                                                        "path": "/xo-vm-backups/d4950e88-f6aa-dbc1-e6fe-e3c73ebe9904/20250417T073405Z.json",
                                                        "actual": 28489809920,
                                                        "expected": 28496828928
                                                      },
                                                      "message": "cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata"
                                                    }
                                    
                                              "id": "1744876967012:0",
                                              "message": "export",
                                              "start": 1744876967012,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "tasks": [
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1744876970075",
                                                  "message": "transfer",
                                                  "start": 1744876970075,
                                                  "status": "success",
                                                  "end": 1744877108146,
                                                  "result": {
                                                    "size": 28489809920
                                                  }
                                                },
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1744877119430",
                                                  "message": "clean-vm",
                                                  "start": 1744877119430,
                                                  "status": "success",
                                                  "warnings": [
                                                    {
                                                      "data": {
                                                        "path": "/xo-vm-backups/d4950e88-f6aa-dbc1-e6fe-e3c73ebe9904/20250417T080250Z.json",
                                                        "actual": 28489809920,
                                                        "expected": 28496828928
                                                      },
                                                      "message": "cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata"
                                                    }
                                    
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                                    • Tristis OrisT Offline
                                      Tristis Oris Top contributor
                                      last edited by

                                      i tried to move tests to another vm, but again can't build it with same commands(

                                      yarn start
                                      yarn run v1.22.22
                                      $ node dist/cli.mjs
                                      node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:275
                                          throw new ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND(
                                                ^
                                      
                                      Error [ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND]: Cannot find module '/opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiProgress.mjs' imported from /opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/Xapi.mjs
                                          at finalizeResolution (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:275:11)
                                          at moduleResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:860:10)
                                          at defaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/resolve:984:11)
                                          at ModuleLoader.defaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:685:12)
                                          at #cachedDefaultResolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:634:25)
                                          at ModuleLoader.resolve (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:617:38)
                                          at ModuleLoader.getModuleJobForImport (node:internal/modules/esm/loader:273:38)
                                          at ModuleJob._link (node:internal/modules/esm/module_job:135:49) {
                                        code: 'ERR_MODULE_NOT_FOUND',
                                        url: 'file:///opt/xen-orchestra/@xen-orchestra/xapi/disks/XapiProgress.mjs'
                                      }
                                      
                                      Node.js v22.14.0
                                      error Command failed with exit code 1.
                                      info Visit https://yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/run for documentation about this command.
                                      
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                                      • florentF Offline
                                        florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Tristis Oris
                                        last edited by

                                        @Tristis-Oris thanks , I missed a file
                                        I pushed it just now

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                                        • A Offline
                                          Andrew Top contributor @florent
                                          last edited by

                                          @florent I finally got the new code running and I tested a Delta Backup (full first run) with NBD x3 enabled and it's leaving NBD transfer (on xcp1) 99% connected after a run. The backup does complete but the task is stuck.

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                                          • florentF Offline
                                            florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @Andrew
                                            last edited by

                                            @Andrew nice catch andrew I will look into it
                                            is it keeping disk attached to dom0 ? (in dashboard -> health )

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